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Old 04-03-2008, 03:03 PM   #202 (permalink)
Jinn
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Originally Posted by Shauk
He's already got me pegged through and through as some sexist disrespecting uncompromising ignorant baby, why bother writing a real response to that level of douchebaggery?
I don't actually believe this about you, but your post read like a rant rather than an educated response. If you don't believe what you initially posted (perhaps it was hyperbole), perhaps you could clarify:

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1st off, you're insulting people who like being sexually expressive, seriously, fuck it.
Why do you believe that asking if there is a "better way" to express your sexual desire "insults" you? The way it is written seems to imply that you believe you are entitled to "express yourself sexually" no matter what. My "poor little baby" was a bit inflammatory, and I apologize. It just reads like a person who feels entitled to do something regardless of how it might make other people feel.

As for this:

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2nd off, lets just go ahead and ACKNOWLEDGE right now that girls being the subject of sexual desire is a role that they can participate in, no one HAS to be a model, a porn star, a stripper, or a prostitute, no one has to wear skimpy clothing, no one has to show any skin, in fact, fuck it, lets all move to israel.
I still maintain that this is an ignorant position. Not that you in particular are ignorant, but holding a position like this reveals an ignorance to the fact that women are subjected to unwanted sexual desire without themselves inviting it by their clothing or profession. There are plenty of women wearing business suits who still receive unwanted jeers or advances. To believe that they deserved it, therefore, would be a position ignorant of what really happens.

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honestly, what is the problem here? hot guy with lots of money and big dong comes up and says "i'd hit it" to you, "oh teehee" it's a joke, you'll let it slide.
I was probably too rude. I just don't see this as convincing evidence of anything, really. It reads like a verbal re-telling of a story, not like a reasoned argument.

And finally, my response to:

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secondly, the fight for equality is useless, be it genders, races, social class, religion. all it takes is ONE person to be an individual, to have a varying mindset from the masses, and there you go, you are now inequal. Maybe very similar, but thats it.
Follows the same reasoning. It doesn't appear that you've been conventionally educated on what the "pursuit of equality" is, or you wouldn't present a straw man such as this. Perhaps you could clarify what you think the "goal" of the fight for equality is?

[EDIT: Your latest post]
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Really, who's being hurt by the phrase "i'd hit it" ?
You, like willravel, make the mistake of assuming that because YOU aren't offended by something means that no one is.

As for the belief that this is a "nice guys rant" in disguise, you've got me in the wrong box. I'm anything but a nice guy. I just strongly believe in the idea that the words we use dramatically effects us, our surroundings, and eventually our world.
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