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Originally Posted by Shauk
I find this conversation to be insulting.
1st off, you're insulting people who like being sexually expressive, seriously, fuck it.
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Waa, poor baby... it must be so hard for you to feel oppressed.. to feel like you can't be "sexually expressive" by saying "I'd hit it" whenever you want. I can't imagine complaining about doing something to make an inroads towards sexual equality. I guess it's too hard for you to compromise.
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2nd off, lets just go ahead and ACKNOWLEDGE right now that girls being the subject of sexual desire is a role that they can participate in, no one HAS to be a model, a porn star, a stripper, or a prostitute, no one has to wear skimpy clothing, no one has to show any skin, in fact, fuck it, lets all move to israel.
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This is incredibly ignorant. Are women who are raped "participating"? After all, they must've done something to make themselves desirable. Women are subject to objectification and sexual language when it is NOT welcomed, encouraged or necessary. See Abaya's example above.
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honestly, what is the problem here? hot guy with lots of money and big dong comes up and says "i'd hit it" to you, "oh teehee" it's a joke, you'll let it slide.
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What kind of women do you know? Why the fuck should someone have to put up with someone harrassing them because they're rich? Surprise! Women deserve to be treated with
respect.
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1st, you just have to shatter the illusion that we're all equal, we're not. I'm better than you at some things, you're better than me at some things, and some people like me more than others, there is no level playing field for any of us and it has nothing to do with me being, white, or a male, or whatever sociology inspired classification you can wall me in to.
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There's a difference between equal ability and equal treatment. Think about it.
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secondly, the fight for equality is useless, be it genders, races, social class, religion. all it takes is ONE person to be an individual, to have a varying mindset from the masses, and there you go, you are now inequal. Maybe very similar, but thats it.
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Do you know ANYTHING about equality? It has nothing to do with equating one another, and becoming clones of one another. It has to do with treating each other FAIRLY and EQUALLY.
And for the record, I agree completely with vanblah on this:
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The point I am making is not to infringe on anyone's desire to be sexually expressive. I whole-heartedly endorse our ability to be expressive in any way, shape or form. What I am talking about is when it's appropriate and when it's not.
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You might take a chance to re-read it before busting into a thread with guns-ablazing, all pissed off that someone is trying to infringe on your right to demean others, ..
I CAN BE SEXUALLY EXPRESSIVE WHENEVER THE FUCK I FEEL LIKE IT, GOD DAMNIT! FUCK ANYONE WHO WOULD BE OFFENDED!