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Originally Posted by willravel
Why don't we do it this way:
Of all the ladies here on TFP, who here is MOST offended by "I'd hit it"? For whom is that simply the most sexist thing you could ever experience? And for whom is it simply either annoying or something you could care less about?
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Neither. As Jinn says, I see it (and lots of other less than admirable qualities in people) as symptomatic of a bigger problem. You really should watch the videos when you get home and try to imagine how 'i'd hit that' and other phrases and attitudes have trickled down (up?) into our popular culture and that by utilizing them you are still perpetuating and legitimizing the less than hysterical origins that they came from.
And vanblah, you are right that both men and women need to change how they are approaching and contributing to this problem. For the woman's part, I would think the biggest contribution they could make would be to stop allowing themselves to be objectified for money. That's not to say that women shouldn't be sexual and desirable, but somewhere along the line we sold away our right to control where and when we are seen as objects. Yes, this has always gone on to some extent, but somewhere along the line between pin-ups and wolf-whistles and today we lost our option to decide whether we want to play an active part in it or not because sexual objectification is so commonplace. The stimulation for the behavior is out there, everywhere. Therefore we have men today who see these habits as an entitlement and women, like me, who are kind baffled by it because we didn't see it coming. No pun intended.
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Originally Posted by vanblah
With regard to the "I'd hit it," phenomenon. It's actually a VERY small percentage of male bonding (there's also farting, cursing, drinking, fighting, sports, music, the list goes on).
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This is in direct conflict with will's assertion that every guy he knows is doing it. Perhaps with the men you know and hang out with it is not commonplace, but within other groups it is virtually
de rigeur.