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Old 04-03-2008, 06:19 AM   #418 (permalink)
pan6467
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Quote:
Originally Posted by debaser
Has the government told you to be quiet?
That's not the point. I was replying to this:

Quote:
Originally Posted by ratbastid
Guess what. It's AMERICA. They have a right to say anything they say. 1st Amendment. You don't get to tell them that certain kinds of speech are off-limits because they hurt your feelings. Literally unless what Jeremiah Wright says results in you personally being literally trampled in a theater stampede, you don't get to tell him he can't say it.
Which seemed to imply,to me at least that I was telling someone the had to "shut up".

I didn't. My reply was to show the hypocrisy of that statement.

On one hand Ratbastid was lecturing me about someone's right to speech, which I never said they didn't have. I said I don't believe in the pulpit they should say things like that.

But I pointed out that Imus, Stern, and so on DO get fined by the government for things they have said and that perhaps he supported those fines. Fining by the government is IMHO, the same as having the government say "shut up".

Also, Imus's job was called for and some, like Sharpton, were asking government to get involved.

I have not said the government need get involved in Rev. Wright's sermons in any way, have I? I never said he had no right to say anything, did I? Yet, I got the "freedom of speech lecture". Why is that?
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