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Old 04-02-2008, 09:10 PM   #84 (permalink)
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I think you're misunderstanding me, as I'm not taking issue with you at all. I'm simply pointing out that this can be way of expressing (albeit crudely) an identical sentiment that is often considered harmless or even romantic in a different context. And you still haven't answered my question. You don't have any problem with guys thinking these things, and I'm still assuming (correct me if I'm wrong) that you don't assume these same guys intend to act on these thoughts. Is it the expression that you take issue with, and if so why?
Yes, I take issue with the expression because I think it is disrespectful and, in some instances, threatening to a woman. Certainly you can understand this on some level. Perhaps it's similar to how some men will get very upset when other men make comments about their wives, or their sisters or their mothers. It's a visceral reaction, not an assumed, snobby one.

Listen, I have dealt with this all my life. I've even heard grown men make comments about my own daughters when they were as young as junior high. Now they are grown and they deal with it. I have an eight-year-old daughter and no doubt in 4-5 years I will start to hear comments made about her. But none of us are about to throw ourselves down on the pavement and pitch a fit about it. The question was asked and I expressed myself honestly. As far as I'm concerned I've said my piece and someone doesn't like it, then, pfft. So what.

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I was about to post this when I saw Martian's response so I went back and responded, but I want to say it and it's a pretty fitting end to a conversation that I consider over. For my part.

Aberkok and roachboy, thank you.

Willful ignorance of history and its ongoing effects on the present seem to be very popular these days. The more I argue on this board, the more I realize that my arguments 99% of the time, revolve around respect, due propriety, compassion and an understanding of disadvantaged or vulnerable viewpoints. These things form the core of my ethics and inform almost all of my opinions. Therefore when I hear, you know, things out of the mouths of people that are lacking in these principals, I get very upset, because I know in my heart it's not right.

But anyway, blah, blah, blah, I'm going to bed now. Night.
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