Originally Posted by aberkok

Will, when you welcome objectification for yourself and think that somehow that makes it alright to therefore objectify women, you ignore the hegemony (am I using that big word correctly?) of the situation.

The same goes for anyone who uses the phrase "lighten up" when these sorts of discussions occur. It's really not for the member of the dominant group (in this case men, but insert powerful segment of society here, be it whites, or the rich, etc.) to tell the subordinate to lighten up. There's quite a long history of oppression.

MM, I like the way you pose the question. As far as I know these gents on TFP, they are fine upstanding dudes, but: who exactly are you all speaking for when you defend the culture of "I'd hit that?"