Well, I had a margarita and now I am back.
Reading over all this again, I feel like I am being used to counteract an argument I am not making against people who are not guilty of the actions I am arguing against. Could it be that I am coming up against a fraternal reaction?
I've stated plainly more than once that I am not talking about men who make these statements jokingly once in a while. I am talking about the men who are being
parodied in these incidental 'i'd tap that' moments of whimsy. Certainly, you realize when you are saying these things, will, Martian, others, lol, that you are parodying the behavior of other men out there. Real men.
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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
Now, all that said, I realize that some perfectly nice guys make a habit out of saying these things, but personally, I would never really respect a man who said them as anything other than an occasional joke
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I said this:
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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
And again, just to be clear, I can understand and laugh along with the use of these phrases in a humorous way, but there comes a point where it becomes tiresome. To put it in my own way, it's akin to exploiting everything of beauty that comes your way for personal use. Like a real estate developer looking at an expanse of virgin forest, lol. To me, sorry, that is a sign of immaturity whether you are male or female. Immaturity or some sort of OCD.
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...obviously not aimed at guys who use the phrase occasionally in a joking manner.
Yet I am responded to by guys who say themselves that they only use the phrases occasionally in a joking manner, yet are somehow still in disagreement with me. Are you here to defend guys who do not use the phrases occasionally in a joking manner? If you are, I think you should make that clear.
If not, then consider condemning the usage, because I think there is merit to cyn's comparison to the objectification of racial epithets and these kinds of sexually overt comments about women.
If this is what you have a problem with, then by all means let me know and we can discuss it. But if you just want to make a generalized argument with me because I am a woman taking issue with the way some men behave then you'll have to state your case explicitly as it applies to these men.
Thank you.
