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Old 04-02-2008, 01:07 PM   #398 (permalink)
ratbastid
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Originally Posted by pan6467
Really? What about Imus' 1st Amendment? Stern's? And so on? (Government fines them and the companies they work for).
Public airwaves are subject to regulation. Different.

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What abut my first amendment right here and how people tell me to be quiet, I don't know what I am talking about? Or UsTwo's or Host's?
Privately owned and managed website. DIFFERENT. You and I and Ustwo and host have no rights here aside from the ones Hal grants.

Also, nobody's telling you to shut up, and nobody's ever been modded off this site because of their OPINION. How they express it, sure, but never in my 5 years of membership have I seen anyone banned because of the opinion they expressed. So don't give me this "you want to shut up dissent" crap.

Besides, just because you have a right to spout off about something doesn't mean you have a right not to have people tell you you're off base.

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I never said anything about him not being allowed to say it. I said I do not believe it should be said in the pulpit.
Religious speech is perhaps the most meant to be protected under the 1st Amendment. Unless your interpretation is more important than the framers', anyway. The only type of speech specifically mentioned in big #1 is religious expression.

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But the 1st amendment much like many others are only applicable to those who are approved, anyone else better watch what they say. The government may not go after them but by God the extremists will.

So don't play this game with me.
Pot. Kettle. Black. All you've got in this post is strawman arguments and a persecution complex.

You know what, though? You're right: this First Amendment stuff I've brought up is a distraction. I really only meant it as a side point.

I'll tell you what: you respond to the MEAT, the IMPORTANT part of the post you selectively quoted from here (by which I mean the entire rest of it), and I won't play whatever game you think I'm playing. See, in my opinion, we're not having the INTERESTING part of the conversation we could be having. I'm SO BORED by the conversation we ARE having, and I'd SO MUCH like to have the conversation we COULD BE having. So PLEASE go back and respond to the rest of my post.

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