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Old 04-01-2008, 09:38 PM   #382 (permalink)
pan6467
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Ok, so the blacks have the right to be pissy and say "God damn America" in church, have their church leaders visit a country's leader known to sponsor terrorism, pass along Hamas propaganda and overall just teach hate and negativity. Because the majority had ancestors enslaved maybe. (The maybe means that I'm sure some came to America on their own, some came from "freeman" ancestory" and so on.....")

Now, by that reasoning, the Jews in Germany and in Russia should hate their countries. The Jews should be preaching hate against the Vatican. The Jews would have reasons to hate the Egyptians (quite possibly their strongest ally in that region... the first to sign a peace accord with them.) The Jews would have reason to hate America because until Pearl Harbor, the majority of the populace wanted to remain deaf and stay out of the war, a minority actually helped Hitler rise to power and supported him. So, the Jews have a right to "God damn America".

The Asian community has every right to hate America because of how we treated the Chinese in the late 1800's early 1900's. They were considered less than equal. Then in WW2 the camps we held them in (partial for their own safety). So they should be "God damning America".

The Irish were treated as second class citizens when they came over, called Micks, saw signs saying "Irish need not apply" "Dogs and Irish keep of the grass". They were portrayed as lazy. (yet, without them and the Chinese our railroads may not have been built.) Then being Catholic made matters even worse. Should their religious leaders be allowed to say "God damn America" or maybe just a "Fuck America" will suffice.

Anyone of Italian descent for almost 100 years has been thought of as a mafioso. They were called "degos" and again had a hard time finding work because of background.... but... they weren't hated that much , sooooo maybe just a "Fuck America" from them will work.

Oh let us not forget the American Indian.... we took their lands and put them on reservations after exterminating MILLIONS of them...... They truly shuld be "God damning America".

The pagans in the middle ages were hunted down and killed in Europe, should they be yelling "down with Europe and Christianity"? Then to this day there is still religious prejudice blatantly out there.... should they be "God and Goddess damning America and it's Christian Leadership"?

My point is ultimately EVERYONE can find a reason to hate this country, (the KKK went after not just blacks but those of Jewish backgrounds, Catholic backgrounds, Asian, Pagan... basically everything not WASP..... but we don't want to accept that.... no it's just the blacks they went after and have a right to bitch... no one else.) but I don't see those people who hate this country eager to leave.

If everyone hated and "God damn America" for what happened to their ancestors..... this great country would have ceased to exist long ago. I truly do not see how anyone in their right mind can see hate as a productive outlet.

Why not work towards solutions instead of bitching, moaning and "God damning..." the country you live in? And if you truly want to teach that why not move out of your 1.6 MILLION dollar house on the golf course in a primarily white, gated community and stay in the area your sermon in, living on the median income of those you supposedly are serving??????

NOOOOO, it's all about the fucking power isn't it?

Now, for a presidential candidate to state this man is his spiritual adviser, but then states he never saw any of this, or maybe he did but it was like an old crazy uncle and he didn't listen.... but his wife and kids may have.... but they didn't..... and the Rev. has the right to say all that but let Imus say something and "I want his job".

Tells me 1 of 3 things....

either this presidential candidate is truly lying because he believes the hate spewed, which I cannot support......

OR he is lying and excusing it because he's a 2 faced backstabber.... which I don't want as president.....

OR he saw this as a way to get "street" cred with the blacks. After all, he is NOT of American slave descent but true African, then white, brought up in Indonesia and Hawaii (by a white grandmother), went to Harvard (A school the REV. Wright seems to want blacks to believe they cannot go to because of the government) and the editor of their Law School review (or whatever)... which the REV Wright would have his followers believe is not possible in the US of KKK A....... which is the scariest, yet most believable theory for me.

In other words in order to be accepted as "Black enough" he had to go to an extremist church and become close with the most extreme of church leaders he could find. Otherwise, with his past credentials and background, he wouldn't have that "street" cred in the "black community". He'd be looked at the same as Colin Powell, Condaleeza Rice, Clarence Thomas and so on.

If this last one is the true one, then that means this man is pathological and dangerous, extremely dangerous. But that would explain this supposed "Charisma" this man has. (This is the one I find most believable and believe to be true.)
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