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Old 06-04-2003, 11:13 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Kadath
I'm trying to think of a way to say this without making it a personal attack, but it comes down to the fact that you're afraid and can't function without a gun.
If you want to assume that Lebell is afraid of functioning without a gun, I am sure you won't mind the assumption that you are terrified of guns.

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Originally posted by Kadath
It's not all that hard to avoid being the victim of a crime.
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Maybe you will think differently when/if something horrible happens to you or a loved one. Perhaps then you will have some sort of perspective into the difference between a victim and a criminal, and exactly who is at fault. The "it doesn't affect me" mentality is one that is bringing the country down.

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Originally posted by Kadath
You just exercise some judgement and you don't need a gun to be safe. Keep your options open, if it makes you feel better.
You have no right to determine how someone keeps themselves safe unless it has a direct impact on you and your safety. Firearms do not, unless you are a criminal.

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Originally posted by Kadath
ubertuber: Sweet nick, A. B, your question is a good one. I would refer you once again to Britain, who doesn't have that problem. As for here, tough laws on guns. You make possessing a gun a crime with a mandatory 5 year sentence, and using one 15-20. Yup, that'll do it. BUT IT'S SERETOGIS' FAULT!!!!!!
It's all my fault.

You don't really answer his question, though, by pointing at a completely different country with a very different situation than us (smaller landmass, less people, different government, etc) and claiming that "it works." Take a look at the reductions in violent crimes of every state that has conceal / carry laws. Guns are very much a deterrant, and conceal / carry laws save more lives than they endanger. I have yet to see any US-based anti-gun statistics that hold water. Have any handy?

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