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Old 04-01-2008, 12:38 PM   #139 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by host
The reason it seems to still "chug-chug along", IMO, anyway, and the reason the_jazz is getting mixed signals from the RV business, is denial and "dislocation":
Or...perhaps things are not as bad as they seem, but I have been in denial in the past and I am generally an optimistic person.

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They announce today that they sold 8,500 building lots for 18 cents on the dollar....they do two things, build homes on the lots and lend money to the people who buy the homes.
I find this fact to be interesting and worthy of thought.

* If they received 18% of what they paid, why?
*Did they pay to much?
*Did the original seller receive a windfall profit 78% over true market value. *What did the original seller do with that excess profit?
*Is the reason for receiving 18% on the dollar due to them using financial leverage?
*Did that leverage include options to purchase the land that was going to expire worthless, hence making the 18% significantly better than 0%?
*Should this management team pay a price for being incompetent?
*Is this the way free markets should reward or punish managers of capital?
*Does the buyer of this land at $.18 on the dollar have a built in equity position of $.72?
*What is the buyer going to do with the land?
*What is the buyer going to do with the potential windfall profit?

In the market it is not a zero sum game, there are winners and losers.

I don't expect answers to the questions, just food for thought.

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Lies and spin.
How about opinion?

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Its a brutally stratified economy and an unmitigated failure.
By what standard do you measure "unmitigated failure". Some people are doing well, have you seen the tax filings of those running for President?

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There is no way to get ahead except for government programs and intervention.
What about: Education? Hard Work? Perseverance? Luck? Inheritance? American Idol?

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The same fuckers have been screwing us for 80 years.
I am only 47, and I don't even know you.

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Ummm did I miss anything?
No.
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