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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
Really? You think the path to the nomination for either candidate depends on getting the delegates out of the states in question? If you give 85% of each states delegates to Hillary it doesn't get her there. She'd still need to win a high % of the states left. Obama need less but same thing basically, just lower numbers needed by him.
IMO, the road to the nomination at this point goes through the SD's. that's all part of the Dems setting up a completely stupid system to pick a nominee, again IMHO.
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There's a subtle difference between what I think and what you are saying; that being that I think the path to winning the primary (getting 2,024 delegates) is locked in seating the states in question in some manner. There are other options for getting the nomination such as changing the rules to lower that number or a Gore, Edwards, or other non-candidate, compromise. However, I think those options are even less appealing to most Americans than a super delegate lovefest. Either way, I do believe that it is the cleanest and most politically intelligent way for the party to proceed, they just need to do there best to not seem too stupid while doing it.
As for the super delegate thing, I honestly have no problem with the system as a whole. I think it is important for party insiders to be able to maintain some checks against rampant popular control. Party politics is very interesting because a party has a sort of culture of it's own that's tied in with ideology and while you want to test your candidates against popular opinion, and maybe even see how they hold up to a good public roasting, it ultimately isn't the general election and the party is a quasi-private organization with the right define its own course. I agree that a situation, such as this, where it might plausibly come down to a super delegate situation, is not something that I think is desirable for the party or the public. I suppose though that if the good reason for keeping them around is as a final check (or last resort) towards maintaining party control within the party then maybe this is exactly how it's supposed to work and it's just unfortunate that it had to come to this... again for which I blame the party for the delegate stripping debacle.