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Old 03-31-2008, 09:59 AM   #207 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by loquitur
Depends how you define capitalism, my friend. Doesn't it?

My thesis simply is that the instinctual response to most issues should be toward liberty (personal and economic), with restrictions being imposed only after serious examination. Glorification of the state/party/race/bureaucracy instead of safeguarding rights of individuals has not tended to have a happy ending. Right?
What does this say about our "system". The woman described in the quote box below is the grand daughter of the wife of Joseph Goebbels. Her grandmother participated in 1945, the injecting of morphine and administering of cyanide ampules in the murder of her and Goebbels six young children, in the fuhrerbunker, on May 1, 1945.

This woman, as a direct result of her father and grandfather's collaboration with the Nazis...her grandfather is known to have operated businesses that employed slave labor resulting in much suffering and in hundreds of deaths. inherited a fortune from her father. Her grandfather, after WWII, avoided Nuremberg prosecution for his war crimes, and, thanks to cooperative American occupation authorities, was handed back his vast portfolio of Nazi era business holdings.

What kind of a system and process results in this woman being tolerated as "one of the wealthiest"? After a media expose of her family's activities in WWII, this woman joined with other family members in a commitment to "investigate the wartime activities of the family".

Call me a cynic, loquitur, but I sincerely cannot see that "our system" is superior to any other...it feeds on wars and coups to sustain itself, makes partners with the devil, is content to permit wretched living conditions for the majority, in way too many countires, including in our own hemisphere, and is possessed by and radiates a sickeningly sweet air of it's own superiority, righteousness, and accomplishment.

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<center><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/52/Goebbels-family.jpg/290px-Goebbels-family.jpg"></center>

(Pictured with his mother Magda and his stepfather Joseph Goebbels, is Gabriele's father, Harald Quandt, dressed in his Luftwaffe uniform. There is documentation that after his mother Magda divorced his father, Gunther Quandt, Gunther remained in good relations with his ex, Magda. He permitted Magda and Goebbels to hold their marriage ceremony at one of his Gunther's properties, and Hitler was a witness at the ceremony. Harald lived with his father, initially after the divorce, but, in 1934, went to live with his mother, and Goebbels adopted him.)

Gabriele Quandt Langenscheidt (* 1952 as Gabriele Quandt) from the Quandt family is the daughter of the German industrialist Harald Quandt (1921-1967), in 1967 in a plane crash killed. Her mother was Bandekow Inge (1928-1978) and her grandmother Magda Quandt, the later Magda Goebbels. She has four sisters: Katarina Geller (* 1951), Anette May-Thies (* 1954), Colleen-Bettina Rosenblat-Mo (* 1962) and Patricia Halterman (* 1967, † 2005).

1985 erwarb sie an der französischen Business-School INSEAD ihren MBA. 1985, it purchased at the French business school INSEAD her MBA.

Through several industrial shareholdings one of the richest women in Germany. Sie ist die Vorsitzende der Harald Quandt Holding, She is the chairwoman of Harald Quandt Holding, the roughly 1.2 billion euro major assets (as of 2006) of the heirs of Harald Quandt.

She is married since 1986 with the German Florian Langenscheidt Publishers, with whom she has two sons.

Moreover, they share with her husband the Children initiative for a better world launched the voluntary involvement of children and young people and annually promotes particularly successful initiatives strengths.
So the daughter of Goebbel's adopted son, Harald, and granddaughter of Goebbel's wife and a wealthy Nazi industrialist collaborator who used slave laborers in his Nazi era factories, is "one of the wealthiest", today, and gets to "investigate" her family's profitable wartime activities, herself.

What is the downside from descending from a Nazi predigreed family? Apparently, in our "system", there isn't any....no shame, no stigma, no penalty.

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