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Originally Posted by roachboy
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you have this story from the guy, i assume.
it reads to me like a rationalization of the breakdown of his marriage than a story about what happened in iraq. i am agnostic about this, btw---i haven't the faintest idea what the situation might have been, what this guy might have done or not done.
but there must be more to it---either in iraq in terms of context, way it was told, something---or something about that relationship.
fundamentally, the story makes no sense.
it may be that these folk are not the chandelier's brightest bulbs and that the marriage broke down over a sustained bout of projection and name-calling, i dont know.
but the story is about the relationship between these two people, really.
the "torture" question arises in that context and seems to refer to that context.
for example, was he on duty at abu ghraib?
not everyone who did a turn there did interrogations, but at least if that was the location, the story would make more sense..
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That's the story man. There's nothing more to add.
Sometimes life doesn't make sense but it's still life.
I just asked a question, because I can't believe any one would think withholding 1 day's rations or exercise would even be close to torture. But obviously people do.
To me to call something like that torture, minimizes real torture in people's minds so that when you eventually say "torture" people will minimize the actions and not pay attention.
You have to set standards so that all people have some idea what is meant.
People, including myself, have talked to her but in her mind, that was and is torture and no one or nothing will change her mind.
It's truly sad and irrational, but that is what some vets are coming home to.