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Originally Posted by dc_dux
The Clinton/Gore " National Partnership for Reinventing Government" referenced in the Brookings article was the most successful, but unfortunately not widely known, government reform effort in modern times. My favorite component was the E-Government initiative, which not only saved money, but made government much more accessible to many more citizens.
Republicans campaign on small government, a Democrat implemented it.
Thats why its on my to-do list in my first post.  |
Considering all of the vitriol aimed at democrats by republicans and their talk radio propagandists....do any here who object to my characterization of republicans as a "cancer" and a "pox", make an argument denying that, if democrats, when in control of the executive branch and one house of congress, had performed anywhere near as destructively as republicans indeed have, that they would be describing democrats as a "cancer" and a "pox"?
I posted the following, nearly 1-1/2 years ago, in this thread:
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...56#post2151656
(I guess Ustwo must have missed it.....)
....and, while you wait for your libertarian third party to grow large enough to eclipse one of the other two parties, why do you concede to the folowing mismanagement? Haven't the debt accumulation and the federal government growth of the past six, years, set your libertarian agenda signifigantly farther back, than if you had managed to gain control of the government in 2001, or in 2005? Aren't many of the fiscal options for reversing the tide. gone, now that the deficit grows by more than $550 billion annually, compared to just $18 billion in 2000, and just $32 billion, in 2001, and now that the total treasury debt is $8500 billion, instead of 2001's $5764 billion?
(Note: the republican cancerous "leadership" has run the national debt up an additional $900 billion, <a href="http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np">to $9400 billion</a>, since I posted this in Nov., 2006. Their "tax cuts for the rich", no bid contracts, and pointless war that makes Iran "the victor", causes $50 billion per month, each and every month, in national debt increases...yet, with all that "fiscal stimulus"...increased federal borrowing is supposed to "stimulate" the economy, since all of it is borrowed and spent....yet the economy is beginning a descent phase....)
Why do you favor leaving the control of the budget in the hands of a party that has no plan to reduce additional $500 billion deficits, or to end "wars of choice"? Isn't it much harder now, even if you were to gain power, to achieve swift and signifigant reversal of the current course, than if you did not serve as "spoilers" in the 2000 and 2004 elections? Why do you not consider voting "defensively" for democrats, especially if your goal is smaller government and dramatically less spending? Won't the debt service burden...hundreds of billions of addtional budget dollars spent on annual interest payments resulting from nearly $3,000 billion in recent new debt, hamper your plan to swiftly implement "reforms" on some (possibly distant), future date?
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http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...34/ai_96644869
All the presidents' employees - Data - federal employment growth or shrinkage by president - Brief Article
Reason, Feb, 2003 by Brian Doherty
It's often said there isn't a dime's worth of difference between today's two major political parties. But Democrats and Republicans still try to cast themselves as cats and dogs. For example, Republicans label their adversary the party of big government, while Democrats count the GOP as a tool of the military-industrial complex.
Does the rhetoric reflect reality? When considering statistics about civilian employment by the federal government, the answer is clearly no. During the last 40 years, Democratic administrations added to the federal government's payroll 31,000 civilian defense employees (Defense Department employees who aren't soldiers), and 49,000 nondefense employees--some growth in both categories. <b>But Republican administrations have on balance subtracted 426,000 civilian defense jobs--and added 320,000 nondefense employees. That adds up to bureaucratic bloat more than six times that of the Democrats. The biggest slasher of federal nondefense payrolls was Bill Clinton.</b>
Government Employees Added or (Subtracted)
Civilian Defense Non-Defense
Kennedy (12,000) 73,000
Johnson 312,000 105,000
Nixon/Ford (333,000) 213,000
Carter (25,000) (14,000)
Reagan 91,000 3,000
George H.W. Bush (184,000) 104,000
Clinton (244,000) (115,000)
Source: Budget for Fiscal Year 2003 Historical Table 17.1, "Total
Executive Branch Civilian Employees: 1940-2001"
COPYRIGHT 2003 Reason Foundation
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<b>1981....A 12 year period of Republican Control Begins...</b>
ftp://ftp.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdm091981.pdf
TABLE II -- STATUTORY DEBT LIMIT, SEPTEMBER 30, 1981
(Amount in millions of dollars)
Public Debt Subject to Limit:
Public Debt Outstanding.............................................. $997,855
Less amounts not subject to limit:
Noninterest-bearing Debt............................................ 607
Unamortized Discount .............................................. (*)
Federal Financing Bank..............................................
Total Public Debt subject to limit................................... 997,248
Other debt subject to limit:
Guaranteed Debt of Government agencies.............................. 435
Total Debt Subject to limit.......................................... 998,818
Statutory Debt Limit ................................................ 999,800
Balance of Statutory Debt Limit...................................... 982
ftp://ftp.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdm091989.pdf
TABLE II -- STATUTORY DEBT LIMIT, SEPTEMBER 30, 1989
(Amount in millions of dollars)
Public Debt Subject to Limit:
Public Debt Outstanding.............................................. $2,857,431
Less amounts not subject to limit:
Noninterest-bearing Debt............................................ 597
Unamortized Discount .............................................. 12,360
Federal Financing Bank.............................................. 15,000
Total Public Debt subject to limit................................... 2,829,474
Other debt subject to limit:
Guaranteed Debt of Government agencies.............................. 296
Total Debt Subject to limit.......................................... 2,829,770
Statutory Debt Limit ................................................ 2,870,000
Balance of Statutory Debt Limit...................................... 40,230
ftp://ftp.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdm091993.pdf
TABLE II -- STATUTORY DEBT LIMIT, SEPTEMBER 30, 1993
(Amount in millions of dollars)
Public Debt Subject to Limit:
Public Debt Outstanding.............................................. $4,411,489
Less amounts not subject to limit:
Noninterest-bearing Debt............................................ 592
Unamortized Discount .............................................. 80,539
Federal Financing Bank.............................................. 15,000
Total Public Debt subject to limit................................... 4,315,358
Other debt subject to limit:
Guaranteed Debt of Government agencies.............................. 213
Total Debt Subject to limit.......................................... 4,315,471
Statutory Debt Limit ................................................ 4,900,000
Balance of Statutory Debt Limit...................................... 584,429
<b>1993, A 12 Year period of Republican Control Ends, an 8 Year Period of Democratic control, Begins:</b>
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdmss09.htm
TABLE II -- STATUTORY DEBT LIMIT, SEPTEMBER 30, 1997
(Amount in millions of dollars)
Public Debt Subject to Limit:
Public Debt Outstanding.............................................. $5,413,146
Less amounts not subject to limit:
Noninterest-bearing Debt............................................ 536
Unamortized Discount .............................................. 70,054
Federal Financing Bank.............................................. 15,000
Total Public Debt subject to limit................................... 5,327,556
Other debt subject to limit:
Guaranteed Debt of Government agencies.............................. 68
Total Debt Subject to limit.......................................... 5,327,624
Statutory Debt Limit ................................................ 5,950,000
Balance of Statutory Debt Limit...................................... 622,376
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opds091999.htm
TABLE II -- STATUTORY DEBT LIMIT, <b>SEPTEMBER 30, 1999</b>
(Amount in millions of dollars)
Public Debt Subject to Limit:
Public Debt Outstanding......................................... <b>$5,656,271</b>
Less amounts not subject to limit:
Noninterest-bearing Debt.................................... 529
Unamortized Discount ......................................... 73,154
Federal Financing Bank......................................... 15,000
Total Public Debt subject to limit................................... 5,567,588
Other debt subject to limit:
Guaranteed Debt of Government agencies............ 106
Total Debt Subject to limit...................................... 5,567,694
Statutory Debt Limit ................................................... 5,950,000
Balance of Statutory Debt Limit ................................ 382,306
<b>2000: Budget Data indicates that, after 7 budget years, Democratic budget oversight and tax policy yields a cessation of treasury debt accumulation, the first time that this has occurred in 25 years:</b>
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opds092000.htm
TABLE II -- STATUTORY DEBT LIMIT, <b>SEPTEMBER 30, 2000</b>
(Amount in millions of dollars)
Public Debt Subject to Limit:
Public Debt Outstanding............................... <b>$5,674,178</b>
Less amounts not subject to limit:
Noninterest-bearing Debt.................................... 526
Unamortized Discount ......................................... 67,246
Federal Financing Bank......................................... 15,000
Total Public Debt subject to limit.......................... 5,591,407
Other debt subject to limit:
Guaranteed Debt of Government agencies............ 218
Total Debt Subject to limit...................................... 5,591,625
Statutory Debt Limit ................................................... 5,950,000
Balance of Statutory Debt Limit ................................ 358,375
<b>2002 Budget, ending on Sept. 30, 2002, marks end of first year of new period of Republican control of federal government......<>
ftp://ftp.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdm092006.prn
TABLE II -- STATUTORY DEBT LIMIT, SEPTEMBER 30, 2006
Debt Subject to Limit: 19
Public Debt Outstanding............................................ 8,506,974
Less Amounts Not Subject to Limit:
Other Debt Not Subject to Limit...................................... 506
Unamortized Discount 3............................................ 72,286
Federal Financing Bank 1 ..................................... 14,000
Total Public Debt Subject to Limit................................. 8,420,183
Other Debt Subject to Limit:
Guaranteed Debt of Government Agencies 4 ......................... 96
Total Public Debt Subject to Limit.................................. 8,420,278
Statutory Debt Limit 5............................................. 8,965,000
Balance of Statutory Debt Limit.........................................544,722
COMPILED AND PUBLISHED BY
THE BUREAU OF THE PUBLIC DEBT
www.publicdebt.treas.gov
<b>2006: Budget Data indicates that, after 5 budget years, Republican budget oversight and tax policy yields a resumption of treasury debt accumulation, at a record annual pace, to a record level.... as total US treasury Debt increases by more than $2,800 billion, an increase greater than 50 percent, compared to the Sept. 30, 2001 debt total of $5706 billion.</b>
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Update: 3-27-08:
....and now, the national debt total is more than $9.4 trillion:
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPD...application=np
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