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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70
wait...so, first you complain that Kucinich was being labeled a whack job...and now you just called him one?
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I found that surprising as well.
But not nearly as surprising as the charge of "promoting those who teach negative, hateful, racist, divisive messages"
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Originally Posted by pan6467
Yet, it's ok to promote negative, hate filled people (Farrakhan/Sharpton/Wright/Robertson/Falwell and so on) define you and dictate to you what to believe in.
Meanwhile, people like George Foreman, Clarence Thomas, Dennis Kucinich, and so on, are relegated to labels "Uncle Tom", "whack jobs", POS's, etc.
Why do we negatively label those with positive messages and promote those who teach negative, hateful, racist, divisive messages?
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I dont recall any post here that promoted or supported any "negative, hateful, racist, divisive message" that have been referenced. I do recall some here who tried to understand and explain the context of some controversial remarks.
And I do recall myself and others here suggesting than it is intolerant to judge any person solely on one (or even a few) speeches and not the totality of that person's life work. And even more intolerant to judge another person based on his/her association with the aforementioned person.
But beyond that...here is an interesting article.....Condi Rice suggesting that the US had a "birth defect" that is still having an effect on the "adult" nation:
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Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said yesterday that the United States still has trouble dealing with race because of a national "birth defect" that denied black Americans the opportunities given to whites at the country's very founding.
"Black Americans were a founding population," she said. "Africans and Europeans came here and founded this country together — Europeans by choice and Africans in chains. That's not a very pretty reality of our founding."
As a result, Miss Rice told editors and reporters at The Washington Times, "descendants of slaves did not get much of a head start, and I think you continue to see some of the effects of that."
"That particular birth defect makes it hard for us to confront it, hard for us to talk about it, and hard for us to realize that it has continuing relevance for who we are today," she said
But she spoke forcefully on the subject, citing personal and family experience to illustrate "a paradox and contradiction in this country," which "we still haven't resolved."
On the one hand, she said, race in the U.S. "continues to have effects" on public discussions and "the deepest thoughts that people hold." On the other, "enormous progress" has been made, which allowed her to become the nation's chief diplomat.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/...746301768/1001
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I agree with her observations...and IMO, they are not all that different from some comments made by the more controversial black leaders vilified in this thread....she is just more polite.
I am still of the opinion that she has been an utter incompetent as National Security Advisor and Secretary of State.