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Originally Posted by Ustwo
If I knew innocent people were going to die and we had the said terrorist in custody I'd dip him in acid until he talked.
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That is the standard "Jack Bauer" torture fantasy isn't it? I would presume most torture occurs under less dramatically pleasing circumstances. I mean, if every third torturing instance involved an imminent chemical weapon release or nuclear bomb blast odds are there's be at least a few mushroom clouds or quarantine zones in America.
While I think a lot of people would agree with you on this (except for wanting to do it themselves) I don't think that it is really all that relevant in the context of discussion on torture as a general policy. Abu Ghraib looked nothing like any episode of 24 I'd ever seen and extraordinary rendition isn't really something you do when a nuclear bomb blast is imminent.
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No one deserves to die for YOUR morals when it can be prevented. What you are saying is their lives are worth less to you then your own precious sense of self importance.
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How about this: no one deserves to get tortured so that you can sleep better at night. What you are saying is that your precious sense of self importance and prime-time television informed notions of just torture are more important than safety, mental health of someone you've never met, someone who might just be completely innocent, someone who could very well just give us useless information as a result of being tortured anyway.
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Life isn't a movie, its worse then any movie. In the last 100 years over 100 million people have been murdered by their own governments, and somewhere around that in wars. Your esthetic sense will have little impact in making it better.
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I hope you listen to your own advice before you go around dipping anyone in acid.