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Originally Posted by willravel
Everyone's, including their own.
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Perhaps you should buy a gun.
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Estimates range from 20-70%, but no formal studies have been held.
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So you referencing this statistic in the context of a discussion about theists attempting to force their beliefs on the rest of us is relevant how?
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The result is the same regardless of how they arrive at it. But to answer your question, I don't know.
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We were discussing religion as a justification for rejecting science, so it would stand to reason that the reason that that 50% don't believe in evolution would be the point, as opposed to the fact that they don't believe in evolution.
You: "Speaking of religious people rejecting science and forcing their beliefs on the rest of us, 50% of americans are piously rejecting evolution."
Me: "How many of those people are forcing their beliefs on the rest of us?
You: "Oh, I don't know *quotes incredibly large range without source and acknowledges that he has no idea*"
Me: "Okay, how many of those people are rejecting evolution for religious reasons?"
You: "Oh, I don't know, it's not important."
Why did you bring it up again?
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That's actually an old joke and holds no statistical significance. It sounded like you were using seriously.
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No seriously, estimates range from 20-70%, though presently there have been no formal studies.
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"Creationism" isn't that old, and ID is only like 2 years old, so no I don't see this as progressing towards evolution. I see it polarizing, and polarization is never a good sign.
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Let me rephrase. Do you think america is more or less religious than it was 50 years ago? What proportion of folks believed in evolution 50 years ago (remember, according to you the reason they didn't believe in evolution is less important than the fact that they didn't believe in evolution)?
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"You're wrong, here's verifiable evidence to prove it. Stop ignoring factual evidence." Seems simple enough.
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You should know that you can't use facts to dispel ideas of a god who controls facts at will.
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Evolution has nothing to do with making sense of the world. Making sense is the job of philosophy. Evolution is science.
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I don't even know where to begin with this.
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Secular societies? There are places on the planet where there are no religious people at all? WHERE?! How are the housing markets there?
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Well, I'd bring up Communist Russia, but you'd probably balk.