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Originally Posted by ottopilot
....BTW - I never said I don't like Obama. He is merely a typical politician in my eyes. No different to me than any other. If you paid attention, my opinions expressed here are aimed at our (and other apologists) hypocrisy and indignation regarding scrutiny of Obama, his values, relationships, and the general topic of race.
I have not entered the Obama love-fest thread because it doesn't bother me that you guys are so orgasmic over this guy. I'm glad you like him. So go there to be inspired, glad, and comforted in his apparent nomination.
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Can you cite anything posted by dc_dux or me...that is "orgasmic over this guy", because I know that I haven't, and, if dc_dux has....I've missed it.
You have made some incredible statements...especially in your post about the "insight" you gained while substitute teaching. All you have to do to see that your POV takes nothing outside of what you actually experienced in the schools, into account, is to examine the populations of the prisons and jails in the US. For you, nothing is connected....all that you see are isolated snippets, none related to, or impacting each other.
How much thinking have you had to do to arrive where you are?
I know, I know....you, "know what you know".....don't TELL you...because you KNOW!!!
Well, I don't know everything, so how can you? I am compelled by my own sense of fairness to make allowances for what I don't know....what I don't feel pain from. How do you "do" it? How do you ignore this "stuff", since you have made no allowance for it....have no empathy that I can see, from your posts, anyway....you must have been aware of it, but you discounted it....it's in the past....old wounds...etc., easy for you to dismiss.
Every US city has, to a degree...this kind of a buried history, the whites swept it under the rug....the survivors of the blacks who suffered and died, passed the stories on.
Turn the tables, if you can....look at how our leadership still carries on about the attacks on 9/11....how "9/11 changed everything". The US, at least had some policies and provocations that can be identified as motivation for the 9/11 attackers, whether you agree to the extent of US provocation, or not.
What did these people do to deserve this "stuff"? Why are they supposed to forget....not even approved, in the bubblicious little world of you, pan, Ustwo, and powerclown, to be as angry as "our leaders" continue to be....about 9/11?
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http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm
On December 31, 2006 —
– 2,258,983 prisoners were held in Federal or State prisons or in local jails – an increase of 2.9% from yearend 2005, less than the average annual growth of 3.4% since yearend 1995.
– 1,502,179 sentenced prisoners were under State or Federal jurisdiction.
– there were an estimated 501 sentenced prisoners per 100,000 U.S. residents – up from 411 at yearend 1995.
– the number of women under the jurisdiction of State or Federal prison authorities increased 4.5% from yearend 2005, reaching 112,498, and the number of men rose 2.7%, totaling 1,458,363.
At yearend 2006 there were 3,042 black male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 black males in the United States, compared to 1,261 Hispanic male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 Hispanic males and 487 white male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 white males.
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http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stor...nts_tulsa.html
There was no lynch mob but a confrontation developed between blacks and whites; shots were fired and some whites were killed. As the news spread throughout the city, mob violence exploded. Thousands of whites rampaged through the black community, killing men and women, burning and looting stores and homes. Some blacks claimed that policemen had joined the mob; others claimed that a machine gun was fired into the black community and a plane dropped sticks of dynamite. When the National Guard arrived, it arrested blacks rather than white rioters. Some four thousand to five thousand men and women were held in custody for several days before being released. No whites were arrested even though many of the mob members openly boasted of what they did. Thirty-five blocks of Greenwood were burned to the ground, wiping out businessesand homes. Reports of the number of blacks killed ranged from 25 to 300. Approximately 20 whites were killed.
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http://www.newsweek.com/id/48931
'A Day of Reckoning'
AGING RACE-RIOT SURVIVORS ARE PUSHING THE NATION TO CONFRONT THE WRONGS OF ITS PAST
By Daren Briscoe | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Mar 10, 2005
...Despite its harsh toll, the Tulsa race riot received little attention until recently. So completely had it faded from the historical record that Tulsa Mayor Bill Lafortune said in 1996, "I was born and raised here, and I had never heard of the riot." Not until 2001, when a commission to investigate the riot created by the Oklahoma state legislature issued its report, was the enormity of the riot, and the central role city and state officials played in fomenting it, finally made clear. According to the report, as tensions rose to dangerous levels in the hours before the riot, municipal and county officials "failed to take actions to calm or contain the situation." After violence erupted, hundreds of white men deputized by the police department armed themselves and rampaged through Greenwood. Members of the Oklahoma National Guard, called in to help quell the violence, instead arrested every African-American they could find, leaving a mob of whites free to loot and burn 42 square blocks of Greenwood's African-American homes, businesses, schools and churches.....
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NPR: Century-Old Race Riot Still Resonates in Atlanta
In the wake of the 1906 riot, Du Bois wrote a moving poem called "The Litany of Atlanta." Read the poem. Walter White. Walter White was 13 when he witnessed ...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=6106285
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http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stor...s_atlanta.html
In 1902, a historian wrote: "There has never been a race riot in Atlanta. The white man and the negro have lived together in this city more peacefully and in better spirit than in any other city, in either the North or South." For many whites as well as black, Atlanta seemed to be the least likely place for a race riot at the turn of the century. Atlanta was a model city of the new South. Its economy was booming. Black
For many whites and blacks, Atlanta seemed to be the least likely place for a race riot at the turn of the century. Newspaper headlines of violence
business were springing up. There were jobs for working men and women. At the center of its cultural life were the six black colleges. The colleges, and the churches, provided much of the intellectual leadership for the black community. The dominating
figure was the aristocratic scholar Dr. W.E.B. Du Bois of Atlanta University. African-American women were also quite active in Atlanta. Many joined women's clubs, most of which were affiliated with the National Association of Colored Women, the dominant black women's organization in America. Women took it upon themselves to provide community services to poor blacks, and to instill in them middle class standards and values. The men's organizations invested their energy into building social and fraternal organizations that worked for community betterment.
But despite the accomplishments of the black community, Atlanta remained one of the most segregated cities in the South. Race relations, always tense beneath the surface, seriously deteriorated in 1905 and 1906. A Thomas Dixon play called "The Clansman" glorified the Ku Klux Klan and denigrated blacks, exacerbating racial tensions in 1905. Racial hostility was intensified the next year during a race-baiting political campaign for governor. The local press contributed to the climate by publishing a number of articles claiming that black men had sexually assaulted white women. Almost all of the reports were false. By September, many felt that a race riot would soon explode. On Saturday, September 22, white crowds along Decatur street, many of them drunk and inflamed by the headlines, began to gather. Someone shouted, "Kill the niggers," and soon the cry was running along the crowded streets. Some 10,000 men and boys in the mob began to search for African Americans. Whenever the whites would see one, someone would cry, "There is one of the black fiends"; minutes later, the "fiend" would be dead or beaten senseless.
Among the many victims, a disabled man was chased down and beaten to death. The mob rampaged for several days before the militia restored order. Officially, 25 blacks and one white died. Unofficially, over 100 may have died. After the riots whites tried to be somewhat conciliatory, winning the praise of Booker T. Washington. But the fact that a riot had occurred in a city that he had described as a model for racial harmony weakened his moral authority.
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