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Originally Posted by roachboy
what seems to be the real problem for you is that fascism is actually quite difficult to render entirely Other than capitalist nationalism. this was a *real* political problem for the americans by the end of world war ii--how to enframe fascism as outside the purview of a nationalism that they themselves were fully invested in. it is a variant of nationalism in the straight capitalist mode. there is no way around that.
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or worse, you'd prefer to make some separation between fascism and the capitalist ideology of nation. but you can't do that, and i suspect you know as much.
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Um, no. Classically liberal capitalism, which is what I advocate, tends to separate the government from the economy. The original sin that leads to degradation of that kind of system is the opportunism many companies partake in when they go to the government for goodies. In my perfect world the govt would tell them to get lost, for a number of reasons, which are beyond the scope of this discussion. Fascism as I understand it entails, on the economic side, commandeering the economy to achieve nationalist ends - in effect, putting national greatness ahead of normal economic functioning of the free market.
That's the reason I see little difference between socialism and fascism - whether the govt owns the production or merely controls it, splitting the goodies with its cronies, makes very little difference. Both systems foster corruption and tyranny.