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Old 03-26-2008, 11:08 AM   #77 (permalink)
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I think Zeitgeist is both good and bad. On one hand, it forces the viewer to stop and think about the truth of things. Unfortunately, and on the other hand, most people will take it for its word, and not do anymore research. Luckily, I've found that enough of Zeitgeist is grounded in truth that it makes for a good starting point for the encouragement of free thought and, given that the person has some amount of common sense, it should propel them into actual enlightenment. I suppose what I'm getting at is that, speaking from an almost militant Atheist point of view, it makes for a quick solution to the problem of religious nutjob friends.

It's sort of like an upper that needs a downer to balance it out. If you don't give the friend a downer (which, sadly, probably means burdening their minds with text) after the upper, then it's going to be too much and they'll turn into a conspiracy theory nutjob, which would suck.

Having said that, I have to at least halfway agree with Ustwo. It would be much better if the video were to only give truths. I'm not entirely sure why, but it seems no side is completely truthful, as they are a lot like opposing political parties, which of course demand propaganda. Further, while there are sects of each "party" that do for the most part give truthful accounts, they are just not exciting enough to be widely acknowledged by the opponents.

For example, for my party, the Atheists, we have the fantastic spokesmen Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, and the more mean-spirited Christopher Hitchens. Now, if you've ever attempted to read their material, it's not necessarily the most exciting prose out there (specifically the work of Dennett), and when it is exciting (Hitchens) it just comes off as rude and volatile. As such, while we may think their opinions are the best of the best, our opponents will call them out as boring nonsense and angry rants. So, something has to act as quick convergence before deploying the much more truthful, less radical works to even them out.

I'm sure this sounds completely robotic or devious or whatever, but that's how I see it as working. It's all a very convoluted game.
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