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Originally Posted by filtherton
The problem isn't that Obama's pastor said controversial things, it's that the fact that his pastor said controversial things gives the people who were looking for the smallest smidgen of a reason to not like Obama the smallest smidgen of a reason not to like Obama. And now they all furrow their brows, hem and haw, and say, "Well, you know, that Obama, he seemed like a good kid, but some guy he knows said things that in context aren't all that surprising or interesting, but when viewed 20 seconds at a time offend Sean Hannity. So, I just don't know anymore."
If it weren't for this, we'd probably be talking about how Obama's garbage man is a snake handler, or that his middle name is Hussein.
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I honestly don't understand how people can dissassociate Obama from his pastor of 20 years, I really don't. This is a man who was very important to Obama personally, for so long, as he himself as said in his books and in public. It's a very complex situation. It's been said that Obama, coming from a doting white mother and an absent black father, was looking for radical elements in college and in the black community to solidify his own confused, yet ambitious, identity - and I think there is a lot of truth to that. SecretMethod70 insists there aren't any other types of churches in that part of Chicago but it simply isn't true - there are more mainstream, less militant black churches, so one wonders why Obama choose one of the largest, most militantly nationalistic churches in Chicago? Do people honestly think it's just a coincidence? This is a highly educated, sophisticated man with a family, who could pick and choose whereever and whatever type of church he thought best for his family. Do you know that his church had articles in their church magazine in support of Hamas? It all just looks very strange for someone claiming to be so much to so many people. I hear where you're coming from, but I think this church thing says more about who Obama really is (not everything), than what you're giving it credit for, or what he's told the public up to now. With that, I'll leave the soapbox.
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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70
At worst, Obama is no worse than either McCain or Clinton, which isn't a reason not to vote for him, it simply means it's a wash on that issue. In which case, you look at other issues, like policy positions (there are plenty on his website, so don't say he's an empty suit), or track record (both Clinton and Obama have relatively short Senate records, but Obama more often has bills that get passed and more often has bills with Republican co-sponsors, or any co-sponsors at all for that matter, not to mention that he has clearly run a better campaign than Clinton, which is the closest comparison we're going to get of how the two of them would handle running an administration).
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Apart from the first sentence on ideological grounds, I agree with you 100%.