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Old 03-25-2008, 07:43 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by willravel
Cynth, 9/10ths of being a manager is knowing how to fire someone in a way where they think a lawsuit would be suicide. Seriously.

Jazz, I'm not saying GG should do anything, in fact it's not her responsibility. This situation is a failure on the part of management. A healthier work team is more productive and happy. This 60 year old is a black hole of efficiency.
Sorry will, but no.

The gambler song has better information than that simple sentence. Sometimes you can't fire someone. It's knowing when to hold'em, fold'em, or walk away.

I have had lock, stock, and barrel logs, reports, and data on why I could fire someone and was not given permission to fire someone because of the worry of lawsuits. I was the lone ranger at the office of firing people. I fired people that people thought could not be fired. And yet, there are just sometimes when you just aren't going to be able to. A triple dip black woman over 50 is just someone you aren't going to be able to fire short of direct insubordination. The only way I was able to do anything was during a major reorganization. Other than that, the triple dip is not worth it to the company.

Any manager, I don't care how knowledgable or good they are will know and understand that you can't fire someone who is 2 years from retirement. You may try to find them a payout package, but if they decline you cannot just fire them. You cannot modify their job too much. You have to bear out the 2 years.

And there's no need to micro manage any employee. Managers should leave employees to do their jobs. Managers should manage, not stand over shoulders.
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