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Rat, I did miss it I appologize. Here's my response to it.

Really? Let's see dates. From what I understand the sermon stating the US deserved 9/11 happened shortly after 9/11/01.

I'd be interested to see the dates of the sermons and where Obama was supposed to be.

If all these were sermons given while Obama was on the campaign trail, then one has to wonder was Wright trying to destroy Obama? I mean he had to have known these sermons would come back at Obama.

But even Obama admitted yesterday he was there when some of the hate sermons were delivered.

But if not the sermons that are on YouTube..... there are more? What was said then?



I have? I singled Obama out back 1 month ago? 2 Months ago? I stated a severe dislike and how I was against him?

Please show me the posts.

In this case yes, too many discrepancies, too many excuses, not to be.

It was a good speech, was it "I Have a Dream"? No. It was what it was.. a political move solely made for damage control. How am I clinging to my Obama-fixated cyincism? I'm just asking questions and stating my opinions and feelings....that is it. Everyone is entitled to do that, last time I checked.

I don't accuse you of not answering or talking to me like I am closed minded simply because you are fixated on Obama winning and you don't care about or make excuses for the questions others may have or attack those asking them telling them they already have closed minds and so on. You have no idea how open minded or closed minded I was when I heard the speech. Why assume such?

Because, when I have given my opinion and asked questions I have had... the responses are quite similar every time... racism is insinuated, me having a closed mind is stated, people discuss how I have been against Obama from day one and so on. In other words the following posts do not answer the questions but attack me for asking them, in one way or another... subtly or outright.

The whole quote that you failed to post was this

I acknowledged the personal attacks I would face (close minded, how I have always been against Obama... and so on) and stated that I believed the questions were legitimate and should be answered.

I don't want this about me. I want someone to answer the questions without talking down to me, dismissing them, telling me I already had my mind made up, and so on. I don't think that is unfair to ask. I think it is very fair for me to ask and expect answers to from those who support him and are trying to win my vote or persuade me to open myself up to his message.

Again, I do not want this about me. I do not single anyone out, I simply respond to the posts that respond to me. The vast majority if not all tend to attack subtly or outright but refuse to answer the questions I ask.

First of all, is this not a personal attack that has nothing to do with the topic??????? But when I say
I'm accused of trying to make this all about me. But then when I say I'm attacked personally, everyone asks astonished and like they don't see it "really where? You aren't being attacked."

But this and your final statement seem to contradict each other and not just by a little.

It's a question I have. To me I wonder after this past week or so. Call it what you will and come up with some cutesy attack...but to me IMHO it's an extremely legitimate question I have.

Instead of answering it, you attack it. Then tell me how closed minded I am and how I am jumping at conclusions. I didn't jump to any conclusion, I simply posed a question that I have.


Exactly, and someone that is should know that if you put someone like Rev. Wright on your election advisory committee, you will be checked. Especially when this isn't just someone of the street supporting you, but the man you call your spiritual/religious mentor.

So are you implying that Rev. Wright is some nutjob that did and/or said something questionable? If so, then why is this man, Obama, calling him his spiritual/religious mentor and how he has been a follower for 20 years?

So what exactly is Rev. Wright to Obama?

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hat I can agree with.

It was a catch 22, if he did he may have won some votes, if he didn't he may have lost some votes for the exact same reason... a question of character. It was a no win situation.

But he was quick to throw his white grandma under that bus.

That's more than fair and I respect that.

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"