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Old 03-18-2008, 02:49 PM   #189 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by robot_parade
Bullshit. Prove it. Cite a source that proves that Rev. Wright is a racist, a black separatist, or anti-American. What makes you think that? Because he's an angry black man? Because he's angry at the way he, and his fellow men and women have been treated in this country because of the color of their skin? Because he's angry at the way America has failed to live up to it's ideals? Well so what? He's got every right to be angry. That doesn't mean that he doesn't love America - he's angry *because* he loves America, and he feels very passionately about it. You can tell, if you actually *listen* to what he's saying.
Yes, Rev. Wright and his ministry (not necessarily the members) is based on angry racist, race-baiting, anti-government bigotry. It's a highly unfortunate state and most likely unintended in it's origins. In case you missed it, and if you are in perpetual denial, please view or read transcripts from any of the recent videos showing Rev. Wright's shining moments and reflect on why Barak Obama was compelled to make a speech today.

Sen. Obama showed poor judgement in his association with Rev. Wright and it's perceived as trouble beneath the surface for a potential president for all Americans. At some point, all racism is going to have to get over itself or just continue tearing each other down. Racism is as racism does, black, white, green. Race is being used as a political devise on all sides. Because you're black and angry doesn't justify your own rationalized blind racism.

Are you comfortable with a presidential candidate for all Americans subscribing to a "Black Value System" as the basis of his church's ministry?

The Trinity United Church of Christ Statement of Faith http://www.tucc.org/about.htm
For fun, try switching the word "White" with "Black" used in this statement.
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About Us

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

This section was recently removed from the current website: http://web.archive.org/web/200410150....org/about.htm

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family

4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value
System.
11 and 12 are of particular concern ... here's the rest
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The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

1. A congregation committed to ADORATION.
2. A congregation preaching SALVATION.
3. A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
4. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
5. A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
6. A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
7. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
8. A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
9. A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
10. A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.
The point is not that Obama is the racist, but how he associates himself with those who are racially controversial and his resulting poor political judgement.
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