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Old 03-18-2008, 09:39 AM   #167 (permalink)
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The picture painted of an old cranky man living in the past is not really accurate while addressing Rev. Wright's long documented volatile rhetoric.
I'd like to see this documentation. How far back does it go? Do you actually have access to this documentation, or are you just presuming that it has been? Please provide source(s).


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This issue goes more to Senator Obama's ability to access his environment and exercise wise judgement. The issue also illustrates the willing hypocracy of Senator Obama and his apologists ...
Twelve years ago, I made a friend. A best friend. He was a very intelligent man, and by far my superior in many aspects. He was smarter, more athletic, and more importantly much wiser. He guided me through quite a few things, I and owe a good deal of my personality to his views on logic, reasoning, and life. I would've made him a godfather to my children, were he still around.

Three years ago, he became addicted to methamphetamine and fell in love with a very toxic young woman. I watched his decline and eventual suicide via AK47.

People CHANGE. Just because someone is one way when you meet them, and speaks messages that resonate with you at the time does NOT mean that they will continue to resonate with you, nor that you will continue to support their public positions.

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His ongoing relationship with Rev. Wright clearly demonstrates a questionable record of his ability to make decisions and magnifies potential flaws of his overall credibility.
Does Bill O'Reilly know you're plagiarizing him? This, with the exception of a few words, is a word-for-word recitation of O'Reilly's show a few days back about Rev. Wright.

I really find it hard to believe that you never befriended someone who later changed their ways, their personality, or their politics in such a way that despite respecting them as a person still (for their formative effect in your life), you disagree with their positions.

If you truly haven't, perhaps you should give credit to those of us who have. If you have, then perhaps you should understand that people change.

EDIT: Just watched Obama's "Race Speech" on youtube. I don't see how the fuck anyone could watch that and think he was ANYTHING like his "Former Pastor" Reverend Wright. For fuck's sake people, do you listen to the words coming out of his mouth?

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On one end of the spectrum, we’ve heard the implication that my candidacy is somehow an exercise in affirmative action; that it’s based solely on the desire of wide-eyed liberals to purchase racial reconciliation on the cheap. On the other end, we’ve heard my former pastor, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, use incendiary language to express views that have the potential not only to widen the racial divide, but views that denigrate both the greatness and the goodness of our nation; that rightly offend white and black alike.

I have already condemned, in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy. For some, nagging questions remain. Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely – just as I’m sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed.

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Given my background, my politics, and my professed values and ideals, there will no doubt be those for whom my statements of condemnation are not enough. Why associate myself with Reverend Wright in the first place, they may ask? Why not join another church? And I confess that if all that I knew of Reverend Wright were the snippets of those sermons that have run in an endless loop on the television and You Tube, or if Trinity United Church of Christ conformed to the caricatures being peddled by some commentators, there is no doubt that I would react in much the same way.
Have you ever heard a person who communicated their meaning so effectively? There is no room to misinterpret this.
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