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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Remember McCain's father in law may have mob ties that got some reporter killed maybe 50 years ago.
This makes McCain unworthy of being president. Check.
Obama goes to the church of a guy who has many, shall we say, controversial views, and is good friends and promoter of Farrakhan.
Completely irrelevant to Obama as a presidential candidate. Check.
Intellectual Honesty? ........ mmm not so much.
If you want to make a big deal out of McCain's father in law (and you know I picked my wife, the father inlaw just sorta happened) then its grossly dishonest to dismiss a direct connection of Obama and this guy.
Now personally I really don't think its that big a deal. We know we are getting a typical democrat tax and spender wrapped in a false cloak of 'change' which fools young people easily, thats fine. I don't think Obama is an overt racist but if you want to try to play a game of 6 degrees here, he is far more 'tainted' than McCain.
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Ustwo, did you give up a 22 years long Naval career as a commissioned officer, as a son and grandson of four star Navy admirals, to accept a "no show", VP of PR position created expressly for you, by your convicted federal felon father in law who started his $100 million annual sales beverage distributorship solely with funds and connections made through his well documented, 10 plus year career as an organized crime figure, directly employed by and partnered with owner and operator of the Phoenix branch of the bookie race-wire formerly owned by the "Al Capone gang" of Chicago?
It is about ethics, Ustwo. McCain now has $50 to $100 million in personal wealth, every penny because of his decision in 1980 to form a close relationship with his father in law, James Hensley.
This is the record, in the year that Hensley chose to hide his equal partnership in the Ruidoso Downs horse race track from the New Mexico Racing Commission, deny his association with the man in the following description, when specifically asked if Baldwin was his partner:
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Reno Gazette (Newspaper) - January 10, 1952, Reno, Nevada
Subscription - Reno Gazette - NewspaperArchive - Jan 10, 1952
Clarence C. (Teak) Baldwin, 42, former owner of two prominent Phoenix night clubs, accused of be- ing a member of a gambling ring, has surrenderrd on ...
This was 1950 incident:
Picow v. Baldwin,Picow v. Baldwin, 272 P.2d 613, 77 Ariz. 395
Subscription - Supreme Court of Arizona - Fastcase - Jun 30, 1954
397] Teak Baldwin, assaulted plaintiff, striking him about the head and face, and knocking him to the ground, kicking him in the stomach and about the body, ...
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In 1953, Hensley testified to the Racing Commission that he had been a friend and associate of Teak Baldwin and Kemper Marley in the "30s, 40s, and 50s".
He had to know what these two men were about, and he partnered with them and was employed by Marley, for 8 years and arrested twice during his employment, accused of invoice fraud related to that employment.
Hensley's brother and race track business partner, Eugene, served three federal prison sentences between 1948 and 1969, one for the liquor invoice fraud that James Hensley was convicted of, too, and two times for income tax evasion convictions.
McCain could have checked how his father in law came to control a $100 million dollar per year sales gross business (It grosses $300 million currently), or....he could have looked the other way deliberately, or he could have been incurious.
We "enjoy" an incusrious president now. It would have been easiest to discover that Hensley's brother served 3 federal prison "stretches", and then checked out the entire background of the Hensley brothers....the newspaper articles I've provided and quoted from were only three years old, when McCain accepted the job with Hensley.
McCain is not a criminal, he simply has exhibited poor enough judgment and a lack of ethical standards to be qualified to be my president. I have higher standards when it comes to who I want to be my president, than you do, Ustwo.
Obama exhibits a similar ethics "deficiency" as McCain does, with his association with Rezko and the "stinky" house purchase. But, I don't give a shit about where he goes to church.....that "controversy" is a Salem Comm. pushed "Op".