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i'm just going to skip over infinite loser's post. sorry.
a couple side notes to the above (martian and knife missle):
there need not "be" time for us to experience temporality---if we are basically electrical systems, it's likely that our experience of the fact of time is a projection based upon our experience of the characteristics of the systems that we are--dynamics or rhythms of wave forms, say, or an echo of them on a different scale. that we collectively project time and mark it in particular ways means for sure that our particular modality of experience is temporal, but not that there*is* time. i dont think time is an object that impacts on us. i dont think the big bang "created" it.
in a similar way, i suspect that the only reason we imagine there is a single system "universe" is because we think it through the category "universe" and so find what we are looking for in a sense because the category groups/organizes data.
a container (last point in martian's post above)==>transposition of plato's notion of the chora. the empty wax space upon which existence imprints itself more or less. of course there does not need to be one. the idea of it is metaphysical. so's the desire to think in terms of a discrete origin.
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a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle
spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear
it make you sick.
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