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Old 03-14-2008, 11:03 PM   #18 (permalink)
KnifeMissile
 
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Originally Posted by Infinite_Loser
I'm not sure how one could make this distinction as, by definition, infinite is undefined and inmeasurable. So there'd be no way of knowing this aside from simply assuming it to be true.
Your logical and analytical skills are as abominable as ever. You also like to make shit up, which seriously offends me. Either that, or you're totally ignorant of the meaning of the words (and phrases) that you use...

Infinity is not undefined. Indeed, how can something, by definition, be undefined? This is a clear example of you making shit up and using words you don't understand...

Now, I think I can agree that infinity is immeasurable but that doesn't mean it's incomparable. For instance, lets define a power set of a given set as the set of all subsets of the given set. It's not too hard to prove that the power set has more elements than the given set, regardless of whether the given set had an infinite number of elements or not! Thus, some infinite sets are larger than others...

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Originally Posted by Infinite_Loser
I don't know where else to put this, so I guess I'll just put it here.

This is primarily aimed at (A specific group of) atheists, but anyone can answer. Now, assuming there are an infinite number of possibilities for God, then how can one claim, with any reasonable faith, that no God exists? The admission that there are an infinite number of possibilities for God precludes atheism. To make such a statement while claiming to be an atheist is-- Dare I say it?-- Logically incoherent.

(When I say atheism, I'm talking about those who claim no God exists rather than agnostics.)
Sorry for the edit. I don't ordinarily edit to this degree but I was so incensed with the first post that I wasn't reading this one too clearly. It's very late at night so, hopefully, not too many people have read the previous revision...

I think you're misunderstanding the argument. The conclusion of the argument you're trying (desperately) to refute isn't "therefore, there is no God." The point of the argument is that the burden of proof is on the theist to provide compelling reason to believe in their particular god. The atheism comes from the sad fact that no one has provided any evidence that such a being exists and, therefore, it's most reasonable to not believe in any...

Last edited by KnifeMissile; 03-15-2008 at 01:59 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost and a re-write for the second post...
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