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Originally Posted by willravel
Sure.
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Will, I already defined the word "since" according to the OED in an earlier post and that will be the definition I will follow.
On the one hand you talk about being "smarter than everyone else" and so you choose NOT to "baby talk" so everyone else can understand you. Yet, here is the crux of the problem at hand. Rekna used the word "since" in a way that is not particularly accepted except in lazy speech or vernacular.
Then a whole shitload of interpretations ensued. Wonder why?
It's not that I disagree with the SENTIMENT of the original phrase ... but I didn't think we were discussing that issue. I thought the debate was over whether the phrase was accurate in LANGUAGE not IDEA.
Rekna even corroborated it:
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Originally Posted by Rekna
"Since" implies that Bush is not as bad as Hitler but does imply he is worse than anything since then.....
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(Bold is mine.)
The word "since" didn't imply anything ... THE SPEAKER implied the idea. But that's where the barrier is ... a speaker should not IMPLY anything but rather spell it out exactly. When you IMPLY something you should not be upset when those around you don't understand the implication. They have their own pre-conceived notions about the language and thus react within their own understanding.
I can't be sure that it was a bar full of neocons ... but if this thread is any indication as to the demographics then I'm pretty sure it wasn't.
I'm not a neocon by any stretch of the imagination and I disagree with the original statement.