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Originally Posted by opentocomments
A friend of mine just watched this movie and started to have anxiety attacks and hasn't slept in 3 days. Do i just lie to them and tell them its all bullshit when I think truth comes from seeing as many points of view as possible and interpreting yourself. I believe truth stems from your own conclusions so I almost feel obligated to let her ride all this mental instability out but I also feel obligated to return my friend to a normal state of mind. If I was to denouse this movie how do i begin, All you Zeitgeist Haters out there lets hear some of our ideas on why its all bullshit, (Besides what the media says and because it goes against what we're told hundreds of times a day) Show me some solid flaws in the logic and I'll try to forward those to my friend and restore her sanity.
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What part exactly? The 1st (religion), 2nd (WTC), 3rd (Federal Reserve, etc) or all three?
The issue I have seen and encountered a lot is people having problems with the first part. Even if they believe the whole government corruption thing, they are worshipping Christians, so its hard to discuss anything beyond that with them.
The problem I always have when debating them is they always use the Bible to defend itself. The primary thing I ask them to do is set aside what is mentioned in this film initially. Research an unbiased history if the Bible and its process of how it became what it is today. Who's hands it went through at a time when only a few could read and write, who they were, what and how they edited. I am a former Christian, I have traveled and seen to what I thought was the birthplace of Jesus, his tomb, and other sites of interest.
After years of extensive research both history from various sources and general interest in quantum physics, the "holy house of cards" fell apart. I truly do see it (at least in a general sense as the film puts it) about a means of control. Infact, beyond that when I see a large portion of actions being played out today; its almost as the grand prophecy (the generally accepted version of it) is going to be fulfilled one way or the other. It really doesn’t seem to matter if the Bible had as much reality to it as The Odyssey written by Homer- because the powers that be are going to make it happen.
I also came to the realization that without having a spiritual belief that a Supreme Being is going to come and wipe the mess humanity has created clean, and make all the bad things go away; a lot of people would have anxiety. God answers the questions we don’t know (what was before singularity), having a devil takes accountability away and lets people know that there is going to be a happy ending through all this madness. Its not a pleasant mindset to think that our journey would possibly end when we die. Even worse that people could act in any greedy way they chose without suffering any consequences.
I don’t consider myself an atheist, but more of agnostic. I don’t think science has the answer for everything. When I see stars being born in the Eagle Nebula from nothing, I understand why the brightest minds have never cracked what was here before it all began, how, and why. I don’t think they ever will. That is God to me. Given the size the known universe that we can see visually (what we see with Hubble) I cant help but think how arrogant it is of humanity to think that there is anything that us simple carbon based organisms could do that would offend a supreme creator (if there is one). We would honor a grand creator by using the tools we were born with, clean up our own act, stop warring in the name of my God is bigger than your God, and evolve socially as fast we are technically.
I was really pissed off when I was told there was no Santa Clause. I was even more pissed when I researched it and found it to be reasonably true. I'm certainly not any happier knowing that Santa doesn’t exist.