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Old 03-10-2008, 09:17 AM   #4 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by JinnKai
Your thread title has a question mark, but it's not a question.

It's more a "here's why I'm right, be damned if you don't agree." Perhaps it's not your meaning or your political view which leads some to call you a racist, but your tone? That same tone serves to alienate your audience and makes me (an otherwise sympathetic person who'd likely agree with you) want to disagree, because you've automatically put me on the defensive.

I think often the reasons for a political view are racist, but the view itself does not have to be. I can agree with you on "illegal aliens" without being racist, myself, but it requires a greater deal of tact to justify contentious issues surrounding race and ethnicity. I think my best advice would be to acknowledge that these are controversial issues, and unless you develop a greater degree of tact, you'll continue to be labeled a racist, regardless of truth.

I felt like I was being yelled at just reading your post, and I couldn't make it all the way through because I don't like being yelled at, nor do I like being made defensive. I wasn't even the one this was aimed at, and yet I'm turned away.
It's not aimed at anyone. I am giving an opinion, basing it on personal experience that I have experienced and my personal opinion which in the end is no more or less important than anyone else's.

I simply want to know how others feel. I would also like to know why they feel that way? Again, that is why I shared my personal experiences and opinions, so that others may.

I am a little pissed people who don't know me or anything about me can call me racist here just because of political views but I think given that one is being labeled something because of their views and the fact that it is used everywhere (just listen to Limbaugh today) to silence people.

I just don't understand how having a different political viewpoint these days is now racist and one is battered with the label into silence has become the norm and OK...... that is a very dangerous way to show support and defend your views.

I'm sorry you felt yelled at. That was not my point.

You can't just label someone racist because they have questions about Obama, or xenophobic because they point out ILLEGALS are ILLEGALS... and so on. Or can you? Do you believe that everyone against ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION should be labeled? Or everyone who openly speaks out against Obama?

Those labels to me are not to be used as lightly as some use them. It's truly become an "if I can't defend on merit, I'll just call you truly nasty names, in some cases like Bill Cunningham's, threaten jobs, and so on" and it is allllll ok because I then justified my views".

No one finds that train of thought wrong or scary? People would rather just use this as more of an example of proof that I am racist, you are xenophobic or he/she is unpatriotic?

I fear for the country and this thinking that it is ok is worse than anything Bush has done, Clinton/Bush/Reagan/Carter and all the way back has ever done since the Civil War.... because this thinking separates us more than it will ever bring us together and we can never solve any problems if we remain so divided and are so willing to throw out labels.

It's just as bad as when the GOP questions people's patriotism for speaking out against their policies and beliefs and can't find true defenses. It is not common to just one party.
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