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Old 03-07-2008, 09:00 PM   #81 (permalink)
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It almost seems as if we can't bear to do this....to get things back on track, here is a definition of "fascism":


Quote:
http://www.amazon.com/Anatomy-Fascis.../dp/1400033918
The Anatomy of Fascism

Robert o. Paxton

"Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."
Do these anecdotal examples exhibit "symptoms" in line with the above definition, or are they "all talK', and if they are.....how does that matter? I don't see that it has changed for the better, and all of those described below are still hard at it today, and somebody is providing enough support for them to keep them "on the air", and or publishing.

Or do you disagree with the definition? How so?

Quote:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...57C0A963958260
TERROR IN OKLAHOMA: THE PRESIDENT; Shifting Debate to the Political Climate, Clinton Condemns 'Promoters of Paranoia'

By TODD S. PURDUM
Published: April 25, 1995
President Clinton today denounced "promoters of paranoia" for spreading hate on the public airwaves and promptly found himself in a confrontation with conservative radio talk show hosts, <h3>whom he had not named but who interpreted his remarks as attacks on themselves.... </h3>

..."We hear so many loud and angry voices in America today whose sole goal seems to be to try to keep some people as paranoid as possible and the rest of us all torn up and upset with each other," Mr. Clinton said in a speech to the American Association of Community Colleges in Minneapolis before flying to Iowa for a conference on rural America. "They spread hate. They leave the impression that, by their very words, that violence is acceptable.

"You ought to see," Mr. Clinton continued, "I'm sure you are now seeing the reports of some things that are regularly said over the airwaves in America today. Well, people like that who want to share our freedoms must know that their bitter words can have consequences, and that freedom has endured in this country for more than two centuries because it was coupled with an enormous sense of responsibility."...
Quote:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...57C0A963958260
THE NATION; Way More Than 2 Cents' Worth

JOHN TIERNEY
Published: April 30, 1995

....The President . . believes we incite, ignite and encourage an easily swayed audience of fringe fanatics to do terrible things to the establishment. Ironically, this is the same man who ran away from the establishment and exercised his free speech to organize protests against the United States -- angry demonstrations, flag-burning demonstrations, hateful demonstrations.

-- Blanquita Cullum, host of a syndicated show based in Washington, D.C.

<h3>It's bizarre that every right-wing talk-show host from Limbaugh, Liddy, and North on down is jumping up and down yelling, "It's me! I'm the hatemonger that Clinton is targeting!" How strange, how very strange. </h3>

-- Victoria Jones, host of a show on WWRC in Washington, D.C.
....

....The President has no right infringing on the free speech of talk-show hosts, but don't you think it's irresponsible for a talk-show host to go on the air and tell people to shoot an A.T.F. officer in the head?

-- Al Mahlmsberg, host of a syndicated program on the Business Radio Network.

I take back what I said about shooting the agent in the head. You should aim for the chest and the groin.

-- G. Gordon Liddy, on his syndicated show.

Two columnists tried to bash me today. . . . I for one am not going to be chilled . . . To both of them I'd like to point out: More of the rescue workers in Oklahoma City listen to me than read your columns. More of the heroic firemen who came from all over America listen to me than read your columns. . . . Why don't you do a column on how not as many newspapers are printed today, not as many newspapers are read today, not as many columnists have their opinions read today, because there's this new media out there which is cutting in? Do a column on that.

-- Rush Limbaugh, addressing Carl Rowan and David Broder.
Quote:
http://www.fair.org/extra/9507/ok-talk-radio.html
Extra!, July/August 1995
Talk Radio on Oklahoma City:
Don't Look at Us
By Jim Naureckas

.......Talkshow hosts strenuously rejected the idea that they might bear some responsibility when members of their audience take such inflammatory rhetoric seriously. Limbaugh wrote a full-page column on the Oklahoma City bombing for Newsweek (5/8/95) headlined, "Why I'm Not to Blame." "Those who make excuses for rioters and looters in Los Angeles now seek to blame people who played no role whatsoever in this tragedy," Limbaugh wrote--<h3>a strange complaint from someone who devoted a chapter in his book See, I Told You So to arguing that "Dan Quayle Was Right" to blame the L.A. riots on Murphy Brown. </h3>

It wasn't just Limbaugh that rallied to the defense of violence-preaching talkshow hosts--less than a month after the bombing, the national board of NARTSH voted to give its "Freedom of Speech" award to Liddy. The award, which is supposed to go to "the individual who best embodies and boldly defends those freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment," has previously gone to Salman Rushdie, CNN's Peter Arnett and columnist Jack Anderson.

Ironically, Liddy has admitted that, as an aide to President Richard Nixon, he started to plan an assassination of Jack Anderson, who had written columns critical of Nixon. "The rationale was to come up with a method of silencing you through killing you," Liddy told Anderson on the CNBC program The Real Story (6/13/91). Liddy's efforts were aborted by higher-ups at the White House.

<h3>Normally, someone who plots to kill those he disagrees with is not regarded as a defender of the First Amendment.</h3> But the publicity given to Liddy's bizarre remarks spells high ratings for talkshows--and for NARTSH, that's always worth defending
Quote:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...57C0A961958260
The Emotional Politics of a Political Trial

By SAM HOWE VERHOVEK
Published: April 27, 1997

....In early 1995, there was talk of revolution in the air. '<h3>'The second violent American revolution is just about -- I got my fingers about a fourth of an inch apart -- is just about that far away,'' Rush Limbaugh told his talk-radio flock.</h3> G. Gordon Liddy, on his program, discussed how to kill Federal agents. On Capitol Hill, the Republicans who had swept to power promised radical change. And by early April, Speaker Newt Gingrich, a self-described ''genuine revolutionary,'' was celebrating the First 100 Days, the beginning of a historic campaign to slash the size and power of the Federal Government.....
Quote:
http://web.archive.org/web/200109142...er091301.shtml
This Is War
We should invade their countries.

Ms. Coulter is also a syndicated columnist
September 13, 2001 9:05 a.m.


...This is no time to be precious about locating the exact individuals directly involved in this particular terrorist attack. Those responsible include anyone anywhere in the world who smiled in response to the annihilation of patriots like Barbara Olson.

We don't need long investigations of the forensic evidence to determine with scientific accuracy the person or persons who ordered this specific attack. We don't need an "international coalition." We don't need a study on "terrorism." We certainly didn't need a congressional resolution condemning the attack this week.

The nation has been invaded by a fanatical, murderous cult. And we welcome them. <h3>We are so good and so pure we would never engage in discriminatory racial or "religious" profiling. </h3>

People who want our country destroyed live here, work for our airlines, and are submitted to the exact same airport shakedown as a lumberman from Idaho. This would be like having the Wehrmacht immigrate to America and work for our airlines during World War II. Except the Wehrmacht was not so bloodthirsty.

"All of our lives" don't need to change, as they keep prattling on TV. Every single time there is a terrorist attack — or a plane crashes because of pilot error — Americans allow their rights to be contracted for no purpose whatsoever
...

.....Airports scrupulously apply the same laughably ineffective airport harassment to Suzy Chapstick as to Muslim hijackers. It is preposterous to assume every passenger is a potential crazed homicidal maniac. We know who the homicidal maniacs are. They are the ones cheering and dancing right now.

We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.
Quote:
http://www.observer.com/node/37827
Coultergeist
by George Gurley | August 25, 2002 |

...She’d called Today co-host Katie Couric “the affable Eva Braun of morning TV”....

...“I loved Kansas City!” she said. “It’s like my favorite place in the world. Oh, I think it is so great out there. Well, that’s America. <h3>It’s the opposite of this town. They’re Americans, they’re so great, they’re rooting for America.</h3> I mean, there’s so much common sense!....

...Then she said: <h3>“My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.”</h3>

I told her to be careful.....
Timothy McVeigh was complicit in the bombing of a building with a day care center populated with small children who were killed and wounded in the bombing of the Murrow Federal building in Oklahoma City in April, 1995.

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