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Originally Posted by Pacifier
You mean something like a "Räterepublik"? (translated as "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_republic">Soviet Republic</a>" in Wikipedia, which is too focused on Soviet Russia IMO)
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The Soviets fucked it all up. Marx was left behind pretty quickly back then.
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Originally Posted by loquitur
no, I don't see that as socialism at all. I understand you call it socialism, but you could call it "binky" just as easily. I don't know anyone who would recognize that as socialism. It's a tribal-style organization, and I don't see how it could help but be nontechnological (but that's a discussion for another day).
Will, if you want to call that socialism, you end up with anything communitarian being called socialism, including religious war parties, fascist dictatorships, Shakers, the Jim Jones group, etc etc........ It's like what Orwell said in the piece I linked up above - the word ceases to have a meaning by being applied indiscriminately.
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You need to read up more on council communism. It's absolutely socialism. Eliminating social class, no state, community ownership of the means of production, workers councils; all of these things are at the heart of socialism. It's labor in it's purest form, and you say it's not socialism?