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Old 03-07-2008, 01:08 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Hanxter
exactly

seems i'm surrounded by media writers...

being a repub, i'm repulsed by my party and going obama...

i'm sick of the repub arrogance
i can't stand that whiney spoiled brat bitch
so i'm going the lesser of the evils

but to get edited because someone doesn't like my approach to a user's non-stop abuse... yes, abuse... of this forum, after having been warned more than once upsets me... seems the liberal party travels far and wide
Hanxter, I don't think you have a full appreciation for what REAL "abuse" is.

It is ironic that you post "seems the liberal party travels far and wide".

The following describes and documents "abuse". If anything, I have posted
too feebly and infrequently in protest and opposition to this law breaking, unprecedented failure of leadership, and betrayal of this oath:
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"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
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http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwa...sls/index.html
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<h2>Shocking new revelation: Unchecked government powers get abused</h2>
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<b>Yet another report detailing widespread abuses by the FBI of its surveillance powers demonstrates the overarching truth about government power.</b>
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<p><b>Glenn Greenwald</b></p>

<font face="times new roman, times, serif" size="3"><p>Mar. 06, 2008 | One year ago, the Inspector General's Office -- the independent audit arm of the DOJ -- issued a <a href="http://www.usdoj.gov/oig/special/s0703b/final.pdf">lengthy report</a> (.pdf) detailing that the FBI, for the years 2003-2005, had used "National Security Letters" (NSLs) to gather information on thousands of Americans <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/03/18/nsl/">in violation of the law</a>. Pursuant to the Patriot Act, "NSLs" permit the FBI and other federal agencies to obtain all sorts of invasive information from telecoms, Internet and email providers, even health care providers and the like without any judicial warrants or any other oversight of any kind. </p>

<p>Last year's IG report <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/03/09/fbi/index.html">documented thousands of cases</a> where the FBI abused the extraordinary power of NSLs -- the FBI made false statements to obtain the information, did so where the information had nothing to do with any pending investigations, obtained far more data than even The Patriot Act allows, etc. The Report emphasized that there were likely many more abuses it was unable to document because the FBI had failed to comply with Congressional record-keeping and reporting requirements (requirements which President Bush, in a signing statement issued when he signed the Patriot Act, <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/03/09/fbi/">declared he had no obligation to follow</a>). The information about Americans obtained by the FBI through these NSLs is <a href="http://www.correntewire.com/the_bush_panopticon_six_degrees_of_domination_from_the_patriot_act">stored permanently</a> on vast federal data bases which tens of thousands of people both in the public and private sector can access. </p>

<p>A new report to be released this week by the IG, as confirmed yesterday by FBI Director Robert Mueller, details that these abuses <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/05/AR2008030500463.html">continued unabated throughout 2006 as well</a>. It seems there are a few brand new lessons that we can perhaps draw from these revelations: </p>

<p><b>(1)</b> If unchecked power is vested in government officials, they're going to abuse that power; </p>

<p><b>(2)</b> If government officials exercise power without real oversight from other branches, they're going to break the law and then lie about it, falsely denying that they're done so, insisting instead that they're only using their powers to Protect Us; </p>

<p> <b>(3)</b> Allowing government officials to engage in surveillance on American citizens with no warrant requirement ensures that surveillance will be used for improper ends, against innocent Americans. </p>

<p>Who could have guessed? How come nobody warned us about the dangers of "unchecked government power" and the need for checks and balances? </p>

<p>* * * * * </p>

<p>Examining what the Bush administration and Congress said about concerns over NSL abuses -- prior to the time the IG Report revealed the truth -- is highly instructive. Maybe there are some lessons to be drawn when it comes to current concerns over granting more unchecked spying powers -- such as, say, the ability to eavesdrop on Americans' conversations and read their emails without warrants. </p>

<p> Ever since the Patriot Act was enacted, Russ Feingold had been almost single-handedly (at least among members of Congress) <a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2005/12/13/update_on_the_patriot_act/">trying to warn of the potential for abuse of NSLs</a>. Finally, a couple of months prior to the time the Patriot Act was to be renewed in early 2006, Feingold got some help in his crusade, when <i>The Washington Post</i>'s Barton Gellman published a <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/05/AR2005110501366.html">superb investigative article</a> which detailed the FBI's increasingly frequent and broad use of NSLs, and surveyed the obvious dangers from these unchecked surveillance instruments. </p>

<p>What did the Bush administration and their Congressional enablers -- desperate to have the Patriot Act renewed without change -- do in response to the <i>Post</i> report? They just lied, emphatically denying that there was any real abuse of NSLs and insisting that the Feingold/Gellman concerns were exaggerated hysteria. That hysteria, they argued, could not possibly justify limiting the powers of the Patriot Act or placing checks on NSLs because the need to stop The Terrorists was far more important, and besides, there was no real evidence that NSLs were being improperly employed. </p>

<p>Then-Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter <a href="http://www.politechbot.com/docs/specter.patriot.121305.pdf">wrote an extraordinary letter</a> (.pdf) -- two months after publication of the <i>Post</i> article -- citing the special knowledge and expertise he has as Chairman, insisting that there was "no evidence" that NSLs were being abused and thus demanding full renewal of the Patriot Act. Here's what Specter -- at exactly the time the FBI was massively abusing its NSL powers -- wrote; just marvel at this:<BR><BR><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_MnYI3_FRbbQ/R8_1Kapfl_I/AAAAAAAAAks/NsOLPLOtRrM/s1600-h/specter.bmp"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_MnYI3_FRbbQ/R8_1Kapfl_I/AAAAAAAAAks/NsOLPLOtRrM/s400/specter.bmp" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5174624056172845042" border="0" /></a><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp2.blogger.com/_MnYI3_FRbbQ/R8_1RqpfmAI/AAAAAAAAAk0/UVVz6Kq9Jjg/s1600-h/specter1.bmp"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_MnYI3_FRbbQ/R8_1RqpfmAI/AAAAAAAAAk0/UVVz6Kq9Jjg/s400/specter1.bmp" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5174624180726896642" border="0" /></a>Identically, the DOJ -- after the <i>Post</i> article on NSLs was published -- repeatedly insisted to Congress when it was debating re-authorization of the Patriot Act in November, 2005, that the claims in the <i>Post</i> story about NSL abuses were false. As but one example, the DOJ sent <a href="http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/22107leg20051202.html">a letter</a>, from Assistant Attorney General William Moschella to House Judiciary Committee Chair Jim Sensenbrenner, accusing the <i>Post</i> of presenting a "materially misleading portrayal" of the FBI's use of NSLs. </p>

<p>As a result of the vehement denials of abuse by the DOJ and Chairman Specter, the Congress -- a few months later -- <a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/07/patriot.act/">overwhelmingly renewed the Patriot Act</a>, complete with the same unchecked NSL powers. A year later, the IG Report was issued documenting that the abuses which the DOJ and Specter vehemently denied were, in fact, massive, widespread, and perpetrated over a period of three years. Yesterday, we learned that these abuses extended unabated into a fourth year (2006)
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What further abuse of power would these federal officials have to implement and preside over before we recognize the trappings of a neo-fascist transformation, if we aren't there yet?

Don't Rockefeller, Reid, and Pelosi seem like people who are acting as if they have sold out to this "putsch" or been co-opted by yet undisclosed threats of violence against themselves and their families?

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