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Old 03-06-2008, 12:57 PM   #62 (permalink)
Willravel
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
How is Yom Kippur an act of Israeli aggression, if Egypt and Syria did the exact same thing Israel did in the six day?
In some situations there are two aggressors. In both situations both sides were building and planning for war. I hold them both equally responsible in each war. They were both aggressors.
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non, I know you hold zero culpability to terrorists
That's a nice red herring you've got there. I think the Israelis prefer cod, though.
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so I don't know how I could justify to you in a million years Israel's moving into a destabilized country in the midst of a civil war which terrorists were using as a base to launch assaults against the country.
Why was the PLO in Lebanon? Answer that and you'll get your answer.
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Israel in Lebanon in 06'. Yeah I'm sure cross border incursions by Hezbollah militants resulting in the death of 8 Israeli soldiers and kidnapping of two soldiers don't count as an act of war or aggression in your book, especially as Hezbollah in effectively an acting agent of the government, but in a reasonable world they do.
Hezbollah captures a few Israeli soldiers. Israel invades Lebanon. Thousands of Lebanese (and others) die, and hundreds of thousands are displaced. That's a war of aggression.

Now Hezbollah is stronger because Israel made them into maryters and heros. Where in early 2006, Hezbollah was losing power and support, they're now gaining in both.

BTW, I still haven't seen anything I posted proven as revisionist. Is that, perhaps, a red herring as well?

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Originally Posted by powerclown
When one side bases its attacks on a reward system that includes the promise of banging 72 Virgins for all eternity once they kill themselves in an effort to kill others, I have to say that logic and reason are not on your side.
And you're an atheist? Or do you believe that a carpenter/demi-god is building you a mansion in heaven?

The 72 virgins appear no where in the Qur'an, btw. They're from the Hadith, which is disputed heavily in the Islamic faith.

More info on that here: http://www.citizensoldier.org/72virgins.html

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