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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70
I think the fact that Obama's votes are so strongly Democratic and yet he still frequently gets Republican co-sponsors shows just how much of a "uniter" he is, and how much he's capable of getting done. |
I have seen his record and read through the bills. What I am forced to wonder is if he is that good at getting bi-partisan support or if he has just chosen issues which are something of no brainers for legislators to sign onto. In all the articles I read (and I know I have hardly read them all, far from it) the examples given seem pretty straight forward to me. I have fallen on the conservative side of politics pretty much all my life, although it is definitely a more centrist view than true GOP conservativism and I would have no issue with voting for most, if not all, of Obama's legislation.
I also see McCain's record where he has gone against the grain of both parties with campaign finance reform and immigration reform. I will grant you that neither of these solutions were or are perfect by my standards but they do represent progress. More importantly, they were focused at big, hot button issues of the day that were getting big press. McCain knew when he went after them his position was an exposed one and he was opening himself up for shots not just from his opponents but also from his own party.
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Originally Posted by willravel
McCain once was bipartisan, but it seems as if that's ended now that he's taking a shot at the oval office. Where he once was critiquing the war (remember when he called the efforts "inadequate"?), he now is taking a hard line to stay in Iraq for "100 years".
If you vote for McCain in this election, you won't be voting for McCain in 2000 or 2004. This is McCain 2008, and he's a hardline neocon.
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Do you watch presidential politics much? This is SOP at this point in the process. Every 4 years the candidates for the two parties slide right or left, respectively, to appeal to the party faithful and then move back to the center for the general. Granted, the degrees to which they move either way differs but they do move.
McCain has had no choice but to distance himself from somethings he has done that the party faithful are angry about in order to get this far in the process. Now that he is presumptive nominee we will see what happens. If he continues to distance himself from his own past, you might be correct.
I do not believe he has gone "neocon", at least not the point you seem to think. I could be wrong though and I will be watching to see what he does/says between now and November.