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Old 03-03-2008, 12:34 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by pan6467
Really now?

From DC = , this minimizes the question and issue. Perhaps it is huge to me. Minimizing it with your first sentence puts me on the defensive, don't care to hear the rest because you just attacked me (whether intentional or not... whether you believe it right or not.... with that being your first response you put me on the defensive and tuned me out.
pan....if Obama's church is a huge issue to you, then you should fully examine the church's statements, mission, accomplishments, etc.,and the context of all of the above before declaring it racist. Otherwise, I would say again, it is nonsense to make such a declaration.

Even more so if Obama is the only candidate of whom you feel church affiliation is a huge issue. He has never sought the endorsement of his pastor and has denounced the endorsement by Farrakhan.

As to McCain..he has been seeking the endorsement of Hagee for months and upon receiving that endorsement, said:
"I'm very honored by Pastor John Hagee's endorsement today..".."all I can tell you is that I am very proud to have Pastor John Hagee's support."
http://www.reuters.com/article/polit...49859920080228
This Hagee:
*All Muslims are programmed to kill and we can thus never negotiate with any of them (paraphrased....full text from an NPR interview)

*God caused Hurricane Katrina to wipe out New Orleans because it had a gay pride parade the week before and was filled with sexual sin. (from the same interview)

* The End Times -- Rapture -- is imminent and the U.S. Government must do what it can to hasten it, which at minimum requires: (a) a war with Iran and (b) undying, absolute support for a unified Israel, including all Occupied Territories (from NY Times story)

*The Catholic Church is the "‘The Great Whore," "the ‘anti-Christ," and a "false cult system.’”

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Thus, white evangelical Ministers are free to advocate American wars based on Biblical mandates, rant hatefully against Islam, and argue that natural disasters occur because God hates gay people. They are still fit for good company, an important and cherished part of our mainstream American political system. The entire GOP establishment is permitted actively to lavish them with praise and court their support without the slightest backlash or controversy. Both George Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert sent formal greetings to the 2006 gathering of Hagee's group.

By contrast, black Muslim ministers like Farrakhan, or even black Christian ministers like Rev. Jeremiah Wright, are held with deep suspicion, even contempt. McCain is free to hug and praise the Rev. Hagees of the world, but Obama is required to prove over and over and over and over that he does not share the more extreme views of black Ministers.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwa...gee/index.html
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Originally Posted by pan6467
It's going to be a HUGE issue come September, October and ging into election day......
IMO, it will be an issue only if the double standards are allowed to perpetuate...and some see the dubious advantage of continuing to make it in issue for only one candidate and take such issues out of context (attributing the words and actions of third parties to the one candidate in question who has repeated denounced such words and actions).
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