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Originally Posted by pan6467
I'm not saying a person or a group cannot be committed to their ancestry or heritage... I think it is a great thing when people are.
I don't believe it is a church's place however. A church is supposed to promote ALL people. Not all do, I understand that. But for a church to promote only a certain race and that church to have a presidential candidate.... one must look, investigate and truly wonder what the candidates intentions truly are.
Again, if a white candidate came from a church promoting only European culture, visioned a non negotiable commitment to Europe, stated David Dukes "truly epitomized greatness", that white candidate would be condsidered a racist.
So why is Obama given a pass here? And if one says "well he's black and it's great to see a black man achieve and it's part f his heritage and blah blah blah..."
That IS still racism. Reverse racism but still evil, foul disgusting racist thinking.
We should vote for a man/woman on their accomplishments, beliefs and merits.... not because of race, not because "it is time we have a black man president". We should vote for him because of what he represents... this church is part of what he represents and I have serious problems with it.
Again, it is not the deciding factor why I won't vote for him, but it is in my mind a legitimate factor.
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pan...this is just nonsense. I would suggest you read beyond the surface of this particular church's "Black Value System" that you pointed out before you make blanket charges of racism.
For a church to honor the heritage of its 8,000 + black parishioners and hold those parishioners accountable for stepping up and taking care of their own is hardly racist.
Obama said it best:
"If I say to anybody... -- white, black, Hispanic or Asian -- that my church believes in the African-American community strengthening families or adhering to the black work ethic or being committed to self-discipline and self-respect and not forgetting where you came from, I don't think that's something anybody would object to. ... I think I'd get a few amens."
To suggest that the church is part of what Obama represents and then only present a skewed view of said church is a bit narrow-minded to say the least.
But after you learn more about the church and its positive role in the community of southside Chicago, if you still dont like what the church represents, then dont vote for the minister if he ever runs for president.