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Old 03-01-2008, 07:56 AM   #5 (permalink)
robot_parade
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Originally Posted by pan6467
This is Obama's church..... http://www.tucc.org/home.htm

This is is their 10 point vision...... http://www.tucc.org/about.htm



While it may sound raciphobic... there is no way in Hell I am voting for a person who's "church" has those points as their "vision".

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A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA
Excuse me???? What about a non negotiable commitment to the people in our OWN country????? I guess that's like Oprah giving millions to African schools but nothing to our own....

I'm sorry but this isn't what my country is, at least to me. These "visions" from this "church" do not bring this nation together but it divides us even more.

There is no way in Hell I am voting for a man that goes to a church that wants to divide my country further and promotes a race ancestory and foreign continent over my own country.

You want all this for Africa, go to Africa and do it. Bring my country back to greatness, bring my country's people closer, teach race, ancestory and culture do not matter.

I recommend everyone investigate this "church" and see what it truly stands for and what Obama truly believes.

This is as far from the true teachings of Christ as Pat Robertson's gang is.

And I wouldn't vote for Pat either.

(BTW... this is not to disparage the United Church of Christ (UCC) as a whole it is a very good denomination filled withe IMHO some of the truest and best Christians out there.... the Church Obama belongs to the one above... IMHO is UCC in name only.)
Sorry, but African Americans and 'Black' churches get a bit of a pass from me on this. I see where you're coming from, but it was not that long ago that white folk routinely enslaved blacks. It was not that long ago they were considered subhuman. It was not that long ago they were not allowed to vote. Racism is still very real in this country today.

One day, I hope, we can truly get beyond race. A lot of progress has been made. But it's far too early to think we're there yet. I also disagree with you when you say that "...race, ancestory and culture do not matter." They *do* matter. Once we can recognize that all men (and women!) are created equal, then we can embrace and enjoy our differences, not pretend they don't exist. I know you probably didn't mean we should pretend they don't exist, but my point is, we should enjoy and celebrate those differences. A black man should feel free to be proud of his ancestry, and have a "commitment" to africa, just like a white man such as myself should be proud of my ancestry, and have a commitment to...well, a bunch of cultures and countries, I'm a bit of a mongrel... There's no difference in my mind between this church's commitment to africa and an Irishman's commitment to Ireland by wearing green, getting drunk on St. Patty's day, and being politically involved in 'Irish' issues.
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