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Old 02-21-2008, 11:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Put Up or Shut Up: Post Support for Accusations Against Kennedys and Clintons (cont.)

(continued from title), support rising to a level of credible evidence that, if it were posted as accusations of wrongdoing against a Bush family member or against, John McCain, for example, would seem equally convincing to you.

How do you "know what you Know"? Post what you got and where you got it!

Lately, there have been an increasing number of posts referring to "crimes" of "the Clintons" and the Kennedys, in response to actual news reports that I have posted about crimes, convictions, mob associations related to John McCain's father-in-law.

These posted Clinton and Kennedy references come up at other times, too, as a blanket, dismissive response to substantive allegations against republican politicians.

So, I'm wondering....does anybody actually have anything on the Clintons or on the Kennedys? I looked at the Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. wiki entry, and, considering that it is open sourced, why have none of you posted your evidence of "ole Joe's" criminality, there?

Are the Kennedys and Clintons just "too cunning" or too "well connected" to leave any trail of their crimes? My standard, when I cannot find strong support to post accusations about a political opponent, is to refrain from posting things that I cannot back up. What is your standard?

Sure....we know about the dubious circumstances of Ted Kennedy's accident in the summer of 1969 that claimed the life of Mary Joe Kopechne, but those circumstances and accusations against Ted Kennedy were not enough to prompt his arrest, or even the loss of his US senate seat. That incident was certainly not grounds for the accusations that the Kennedys are a "crime family".

The background of the Clintons are the most investigated details in modern times, so, in view of that, what can you post about them to help us to see your POV?

I want to stress that, whatever you post, it should rise to the level of the support I have posted to make my claim that McCain's father-in-law was "mobbed up", that the money that launched McCain's political career and composes almost his entire, current $50 million plus personal fortune, began with proceeds of organized crime activities of his father-in-law.

I think the McCain example is a good test....if the support I've posted for my opinion that McCain is severely ethically compromised because he took "mob money", is not convincing to you, you will probably have to do better than I did, to support your accusations against a Clinton or a Kennedy.

Consider also, that most of my sources of support came from mainstream daily newspapers, published in major newspapers for many years, and from the IRE investigative reporter task force of 36 reporters, in 1977.

I am hoping we can reach a better understanding of how and where we gather and react to details that shape our political opinions.

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