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pan6467 · 02-20-2008, 12:13 AM

3 things scare me about Obama and this whole election process his year, but the last 2 lead to my biggest paranoidal, delusional, conspiratorial, fear.

#1 is how fast Obama has risen, it seems either he has extreme charisma and leadership capabilities or someone in the shadows is guiding him. I tend to believe it's the charisma and leadership abilities.... I just don't see them. But he is better than Hilary..... but he did turn his back on Fla. and Michigan voters because they chose to freely choose their election date and the DNC couldn't handle it. (PS.... this is NOT an inivtation to threadjack telling me about the hows and whys... do that in a different thread, please.) I truly do not know what to think of this man yet.... but something about him scares me.

So the rise in the primary could just be he was the anti-Clinton candidate... but that doesn't explain the youth's fascination with him so I have to say it's charisma.

#2 I echo the feelings from Shauk... someone will get to him and he'll be martyred. I am also scared of this whole superdelegate thing. If he wins the majority of regular but Hilary pulls the supers out and takes the nomination.... we could see riots. we could see riots from either of these situations and possibly a true race war.

#3 I have been around and watched many primary seasons, I remember as far back as 80 (not too far back I guess). I have never seen such hostility and revolt that is occurring in BOTH parties. I believe it is because Obama and McCain are seriously stirring up change, a change that will take us from hate politics to "Let's get things done, stop fucking around and let's work together to find answers." This change is what the leaders of the parties and corporate America fear because should either be elected and they won't let that happen. It could be an assassination for McCain, then who gets the nod for the GOP. Or McCain could just be a good old boy fooling everyone... and it'll be hate mongering, fear and business as usual while he divides the country further. I just don't think McCain is that good of an actor... I think he is sincere and means it when he says he will work with Dems to find solutions.

My biggest paranoidal, delusional, conspiratorial, fear: If we have riots because of the superdelegates or an assassination (even an attempted one) against Obama, we may see President Bush put into action Martial Law and suspend elections period. If Corporate America and the old leaders realize their days are numbered and change is coming... we could see multiple faux terrorist attacks which lead to Bush calling Martial Law and suspending the elections.

I will be very happy come Nov. 5th when we have the elections and all my fear and hopefully, gloom and doom in this area will cease the day the newly elected president (whomever he is... sorry Hillary fans I think she's done) stands up and swears the oath of office

We shall see, but one thing I do feel certain of, these are going to be seriously interesting times to live through. They could be great, re generative prosperity filled times or they could turn out to be the worst times this nation will have ever seen. I truly believe it'll be one or the other and there won't be any middle ground.

02-20-2008, 12:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	3 things scare me about Obama and this whole election process his year, but the last 2 lead to my biggest paranoidal, delusional, conspiratorial, fear. #1 is how fast Obama has risen, it seems either he has extreme charisma and leadership capabilities or someone in the shadows is guiding him. I tend to believe it's the charisma and leadership abilities.... I just don't see them. But he is better than Hilary..... but he did turn his back on Fla. and Michigan voters because they chose to freely choose their election date and the DNC couldn't handle it. (PS.... this is NOT an inivtation to threadjack telling me about the hows and whys... do that in a different thread, please.) I truly do not know what to think of this man yet.... but something about him scares me. So the rise in the primary could just be he was the anti-Clinton candidate... but that doesn't explain the youth's fascination with him so I have to say it's charisma. #2 I echo the feelings from Shauk... someone will get to him and he'll be martyred. I am also scared of this whole superdelegate thing. If he wins the majority of regular but Hilary pulls the supers out and takes the nomination.... we could see riots. we could see riots from either of these situations and possibly a true race war. #3 I have been around and watched many primary seasons, I remember as far back as 80 (not too far back I guess). I have never seen such hostility and revolt that is occurring in BOTH parties. I believe it is because Obama and McCain are seriously stirring up change, a change that will take us from hate politics to "Let's get things done, stop fucking around and let's work together to find answers." This change is what the leaders of the parties and corporate America fear because should either be elected and they won't let that happen. It could be an assassination for McCain, then who gets the nod for the GOP. Or McCain could just be a good old boy fooling everyone... and it'll be hate mongering, fear and business as usual while he divides the country further. I just don't think McCain is that good of an actor... I think he is sincere and means it when he says he will work with Dems to find solutions. My biggest paranoidal, delusional, conspiratorial, fear: If we have riots because of the superdelegates or an assassination (even an attempted one) against Obama, we may see President Bush put into action Martial Law and suspend elections period. If Corporate America and the old leaders realize their days are numbered and change is coming... we could see multiple faux terrorist attacks which lead to Bush calling Martial Law and suspending the elections. I will be very happy come Nov. 5th when we have the elections and all my fear and hopefully, gloom and doom in this area will cease the day the newly elected president (whomever he is... sorry Hillary fans I think she's done) stands up and swears the oath of office We shall see, but one thing I do feel certain of, these are going to be seriously interesting times to live through. They could be great, re generative prosperity filled times or they could turn out to be the worst times this nation will have ever seen. I truly believe it'll be one or the other and there won't be any middle ground. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"