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Old 02-18-2008, 09:28 AM   #75 (permalink)
pan6467
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I don't see why in a political forum a person cannot ask others of his spectrum a question without having people from a differing viewpoint jump on him.

Alladin just asked a question, he even stated it was for Conservatives, he wanted some insight to a problem. Why not show him respect and allow his question to be answered by his peers (those of the same spectrum)? Why must others jump in degrade, jump to conclusions, and turn his OP into something it was never meant to be.

I don't agree with the premise, voting Democrat and "pulling the lever for the person most likely to be defeatable in Nov." but that is his choice. It's a legitimate question and something that happens frequently in politics so it is nothing new. So why not allow Conservatives to answer his question and leave it alone?

If I posed a question for Dems to answer why should I be bombarded with GOP responses and attacks?

Part of a good forum is to allow others their points of view and respecting them, you don't have to agree, but we should at least honor their words. Some of the answers there seemed to have no purpose than to creat animosity and a fight.

Ratbastid answered with a quick self effacing joke, and left it alone afterward.(Edit: Rat's response was pretty respectable and funny).. Others chose to really instigate a fight. Why? Because you didn't like his question so you had to blow it out of the water with attacks and ways to change the OP's subject? That's just ego there and taking away a legitimate question and a man's right to openly express himself.

Ahhh but there's the rub, some will argue that he shouldn't have posted in a public forum. Why? this is supposedly a community of friends and family, why should he not be able to ask his question unprovoked or harassed?

Some would argue that he was allowed to express himself but he did it publicly so they can express themselves by attacking, changing the subject etc. Again, I ask why? And I also would argue that you are not truly allowing the man to express himself freely by attacking his legitimate question. All you show is that if a person expresses an opinion, question or statement, contrary to your beliefs you will attack them, change the topic or belittle the expression.

But why? Are you so insecure in your beliefs that you have to attack others beliefs?

I didn't know having political viewpoints, asking questions and trying to learn how others see things was a game. I thought the politics forum was there so that people could express political views freely and have debate, discussion and maybe learn/teach from each other. So that is where I was all fucked up..... it's a game, thus nothing there is to be serious and noone is to truly share, discuss,,debate or learn from each other. We are to go in and act like 3 year olds demanding attention to ourselves and only ourselves.

It's a fucking game you say? Well, why don't you go to Yahoo or Pogo and play your games and let's see what happens when adults, with ideas, questions and wanting to learn and express their political ideas are free to, without you playing "your little game". Maybe the Politics board may see an increase in intelligent posts, new ideas and threads and not just the same people saying "look at me, look who I can attack in new and differing ways".

In the end political and speech freedoms are not just the freedom to say them but knowing you are not going to be attacked into silence by 3 year olds playing "games".

Edited: reason..... upon reading I added the ( ) to follow Ratbastid, it gets across what I am trying to say in that paragraph better.
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