I recently started a thread in politics (
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=131626). It was my first venture into that area in a while. I wanted to see if it has changed. It hasn't. The personal insults began in the second post. By the seventh post the OP was completely forgotten. Five and one-half hours after the OP, my original question was so buried in the hubris it could only be dredged up by the keenest of posters. The argument was now over the definition of "socialism," and someone even posted a chart showing the political spectrum, none of this even vaguely related to my OP. Vanity, Vanity, All is Vanity!