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Old 02-16-2008, 11:46 PM   #98 (permalink)
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A moderate? What do you think a moderate will do, confront the corporatists or cooperate with them? How do you see that there can be a middle ground?

McCain, a moderate? He fell in love at age 43. He could have married his second wife, and stayed at arms length from her ex-con "mobbed up" father. Instead, he went to work for him and accepted him as his "king maker". When did the man's money become clean enough to not stain the character and reputation of the former Naval aviator POW that he bought with it?

Do you think a "moderate" will transfer any measurable power or wealth from the corporatists in control, to "the people"? Doesn't "cooperate" mean to operate alongside the corporatists?

A moderate won't "take" anything from the military industrial complex in this country. Wouldn't "wrest" from their control, be a more accurate description?
This guy was <a href="http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=117353&highlight=huey+long">the last American politician to do it</a>, and he was no moderate!
Quite frankly, yes. That is if you are talking about a left-leaning moderate. In fact, that moderate will get more accomplished towards those goals than a "liberal" president. The fact of the matter is that the presidency is built for moderates while the place for more extreme liberals and conservatives is the legislature. A moderate can build consensus between to two extremes there and buy themselves gains in the direction they want to go in. On the other hand, more extremely oriented presidents will never accomplish any of those goals because they won't be able to compromise without losing their base unless equally far left/right elements control both the house and senate as well as their own party. That is not the case with the democrats, as the majority in both houses and the party are far more moderate than liberal. That is why the goals you seem to desire will become closer to a reality by a moderate getting elected than not.
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