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Originally Posted by savmesom11
Which is another reason why the article Ustwo linked is utter nonsense! As there may be more blacks in prison but we punish them harsher too.
How is allowing someone to vote in a democratic process burdening you????
I can't find the link now but for instance a high school senior (18 yrs old) was caught creating fake ID's for his fellow classmates, he took a plea bargain that resulted in a felony. You cannot honestly tell me that this young man deserves to have this mistake follow him for LIFE. I am certain that most of us had either fake ID's or our friends did so we could get some beer for the weekend party while in high school. All felonies are not the same but again I am ranting off into another argument all together.
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so in a post 9/11 world people making fake IDs should be "exempt" or exhonerated for their desire to be something they are not?
He shouldn't have plead for the felony and taken his chances with the possible aquittal. It still would be a felony if he didn't plea so I don't get your point. He MADE the choice to make IDs, no one put a gun to his head.
So what if one of the people he made a fake ID for somehow leveraged it to more than just buying beer and getting into clubs. We're not talking about USING a fake ID you are stating he was making them. A HUGE difference. He took the risk and got caught. That's the nature with all of this, he's an idiot for not stopping when he was 17 and 364 days old. Also now with the fact that some minors are tried as adults depending upon the crime, the idea is that he or anyone else should be weighing the ramifications of getting caught and the punishmed meted out for any crime.
Allowing them to vote isn't the burden, them being a criminal and engaging in criminal activities IS a burden to me once they get caught. This isn't just giving the kid a time out, this is letting people know that there is more than just a trip to the big house for 3 hots and a cot. There is more at stake than just time away from your friends and loved ones.
The burden on me is that I get to pay for them to be on "vacation" from the rest of society for however they are punished which isn't even the whole sentence anyways. Gee that's a deterent, be good in prison and you'll get out earlier.
Let's talk about crime PREVENTION in the first place. No one forces someone to commit criminal acts. It is up to the individual to prevent themselves from commmiting criminal acts in the first place.
Again, they can move to another state if they so choose, they got 50 to pick from.
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