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Originally Posted by roachboy
there are no good conclusions to be drawn from your position either--nor from that of ustwo--permanent disenfranchisement of ex-felons would create a permanent class of non-citizens, without rights, without representation--it is not rocket science to see that these folk would understand themselves are being ENTIRELY without recourse in the context of the existing order--because they would be---and as a function of that would be FAR more likely to not only be inclined to but to be situationally FORCED to commit other crimes. so it seems that your position, were it translated into policy, would be entirely self-fulfilling.
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Woah there nelly, now how did we get from disenfranchisement to non-citizens without rights? Thats a major leap of logic there. They can't vote but that doesn't mean they have no rights, they have simply lost THE right, singular, to participate in the election process.
You can't vote so therefore committing more crimes is the logical conclusion...seriously you believe this? Who would have thought that recidivism was due to lack of a ballot. If only they voted BEFORE committing their crimes then perhaps it could have been avoided all together.
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maybe from there it'd be easy to justify rounding these folks up and sending them to lovely re-education camps--where they still would have no hope of getting back their basic civil liberties--so why not just advocate capital punishment for all felonies?
functionally you're already doing it.
i really dont understand where this is coming from.
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Yes losing the right to vote is like dying, please....
A fine melodrama.