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Originally Posted by loquitur
Actually, my point (which people here decided to miss) is that recruiters often try to benefit themselves rather than the people being recruited. That's why it should surprise no one that it happens in the military, which is composed of human beings just like every other human endeavor is. Obviously the military isn't like a union - the military is the one government function that everyone (even hardcore libertarians) agrees is something that government should be handling rather than private enterprise. That doesn't mean there won't be human failings associated with it just as there are with anything else.
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I didn't decide to miss anything. You've mentioned the union before in a less than stellar light, your wording was clear, and I was building off that. This looks like backpedaling, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
So to summarize your clarified point: it's okay for military recruiters to lie to recruits because the recruiters are just human.
You know these just-humans are taught to kill right? And that the job of these humans is to get someone to sign away the next 4+ years of their life? Are you sure you want to excuse their actions with "they're just human"?
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Originally Posted by loquitur
uh, no, it's not reasonable for Berkeley to behave that way for anyone. Nor is it reasonable for them to single out the Marine Corps based on a small sample of bad apples unless they're prepared to do it to every organization that has some bad apples in it.
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It's not responsible to protect your 18-22 year olds who are in a good school from predatory and dishonest tactics by the Marines? BTW, I am not aware of any other organization with bad apples in Berkeley that makes you sign a contract that includes jail time for leaving early.