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Originally Posted by willravel
Then you're not a theist. Theist loses meaning once it means whatever you want it to me.
"I am a theist, because I call toast "god" and I believe in toast!"
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A theist would suggest that the toast is dependent on God. Please find me a prominent theist who wanted to run with the sort of thinking you are suggesting here.
I didn't meant to suggest that a theist is one who can call God anything and everything. Theists attribute the fact of being to a greater being (the Greatest Conceivable Being; the First Mover). They reasoned from this perception down to such things as toast. We have toast because of God, and God invented soup. Much of this, however, has been displaced by atheist reason. But to suggest there is no such thing as theist reason is to overlook some of the greatest thinkers in history.
Atheists don't have "one up" on theists. They merely have a different mode of thinking about the same sort of things.
Sure there probably isn't a God (i.e. a singular, supreme being). It doesn't look so good from the evidence standpoint, but this doesn't mean having believed in a God is necessarily a suspension of reason as far as the likes of Descartes is concerned.