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Originally Posted by merleniau
And walking to class and in and out of doors without getting a face full of smoke should be my choice, too..
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That's not a problem. I can understand that, that's why I respect the rules and stand 25 ft away from any doors. However, I should be able to smoke a cigarette without getting wet, rained on or attacked by the wind. If I can respect non-smokers enough to rule their rules, why can't respect me enough to at least put put a shelter?
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Originally Posted by merleniau
and if multiple people also feel the same way, they can work within the system to get things changed. If more people feel the same way you do, why don't you join together and get something changed instead of complaining about it?
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I don't know how many people agree with me. Thats one of the reasons I started this thread. I was kinda hoping to find some. But as you said, you voted against the smoking band as well, it doesn't seem to be doing much. Here, where you live, or where most of my family live. And most of my family are smokers too, and they voted against it as well.
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Originally Posted by merleniau
I have a mild smoke allergy; I get migraines as a result of contact with secondhand smoke.
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Most of my friends here in NY are non-smokers. I have lived here for about 3 years. Even the one year I lived in DC I was around non-smokers. And I have never once heard of smoke allergy. Is this just doctors bending to the media? I tried looking up stats on it, but couldn't seem to find any. If you know where I can find some that would get. I want to know when people started get diagnosed with it.
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Originally Posted by willravel
If you drink in the same room as someone, they don't get drunk.
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And no, being in the room with a drinker is not going to slowly kill me (and either is being in the room with a smoker) - but that drinker is going to kill me quickly and painfully as they drive home.
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Originally Posted by Martian
To bring the argument to a more reasonable level, I do not understand in the least why banning smoking out of doors is even considered. It's the same thing on a smaller scale. I should think there would be sufficient room on an outdoor campus that any non-smokers who are sufficiently bothered by the habit would have no need to approach a smoker. Why banish them even further? What purpose does that serve?
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And that is my main point. If I am outside, where the air is as fresh as it's gonna get, and I'm not blocking a doorway, why should I have to move?
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Originally Posted by Fotzlid
I say ban the damn things. There isn't a single redeeming factor about them.
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Self-righteous is not the word for it. Anyway, There isn't a single redeeming point to beer either, but you read about what happened when they tried to ban that.
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Originally Posted by allaboutmusic
Nah, the bathroom is fine. That's where they are meant to shit. The bathroom has appropriate facilities to get rid of the shit (via flushing).
Hence my post above saying that a smoking room with extractor / filter fans is the best solution for everyone. Non-smokers are happy because they don't have to inhale the smoke, and smokers are happy because they don't have to smoke outside. I'm sure you'd agree this is a fair solution, wouldn't you?
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YES I DO. It would I could smoke without getting wet or snowed on.